Feed The Beast Wiki:Staff's Noticeboard/Archive/2014

Crafting grid style overhaul

The crafting grid style overhaul would make standard style GUIs follow this style. Non-standard templates will not follow this, such as Template:Cg/Arcane Worktable and Template:Cg/Essence Refiner will not be affected. Example template: Template:X9. Alternate style: Template:X1. Demonstration: User:Retep998/Sandbox/Cg.

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~~Voting began on December 18 and will end after one week on December 25.~~ Verdict reached. The standard will be used, using thicker borders.

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Support. Yes. -- Satanic Santa^{FTB Wiki Admin} 04:49, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Support. I started this ― 🐇Retep 998🐇^{🐰Bunny Overlord🐰} 04:55, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Oppose

Oppose. I like the rounded edges more. Chocohead ^{Nag• Edits• Staff} 13:49, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Oppose. I like the sound of the idea of page space economy, but I like the idea of using original GUIs more. Something just doesn't feel right about the more compact versions. -PaladinAHOne 20:29, 20 December 2014 (PST)

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Conditional support. Only if you use the alternate rounded GUIs ;) Chocohead ^{Nag• Edits• Staff} 20:40, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Conditional support. I quite like the idea of making the titles Shaped Crafting and Shapeless Crafting rather than a Shapeless subtitle. I also have to admit that having no grid borders in the Shapeless crafting grid is growing on me; and thus I'm open to this change. However I do agree with Chocohead and PaladinAHOne in that although page economy is great and the thin border looks quite good, there's something slightly off in not having a Minecraft style border. Due to this fact I believe we should use the alternative "Thicker boarder" featured on User:Retep998/Sandbox/Cg. Wolfman_123_^{Wiki Staff · (Talk)} 07:41, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Staff Nomination

Wolfman-123- (t · c) has proven to be a very competent user of the wiki. He has been consistently working almost daily on improving the wiki. He has been active in the IRC channel, asking for help when needed, providing feedback, and generally working well with Peter and I. His edits always follow the guidelines, and have excellent grammar. He says he is up for the job of dealing with other user's edits when they do not follow the guidelines, and he has proven that he already does do this. He has a surprisingly excellent understanding of how to create very advanced wiki templates. For these reasons, I am nominating Wolfman to join the FTB Wiki Article Editing Staff. Please discuss and vote. -- Satanic Santa^{Contribs•Administrator and Editor} 05:29, 2 November 2014 (GMT)

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Support. I have stated my reasons. -- Satanic Santa^{Contribs•Administrator and Editor} 05:29, 2 November 2014 (GMT)
Support. Meh Retep998 ^{Bunny Overlord•talk•contribs} 05:32, 2 November 2014 (GMT)
Support. sounds good Yusunoha (talk) 08:47, 2 November 2014 (GMT)
Support. Always good to have more people adding stuff ;) Chocohead ^{Nag• Edits• Staff} 19:50, 2 November 2014 (GMT)

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Implementation of new |Shapeless parameter in the Crafting Table template

Chocohead has created a more understandable and all-around better version of our current |shapeless parameter at Template:X8. It adds the word "Shapeless" above the arrow in the table if |shapeless=True. Some tweaks could be made, such as ~~allowing for |shapeless=true~~edit: this has been implemented, ~~and making it use the MC font~~edit: it does this too, but apart from that it seems pretty alright. -- SatanicSanta^{Talk•Contribs•Admin} 02:06, 19 August 2014 (BST)

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Support. I have wanted something like this for a long time. -- SatanicSanta^{Talk•Contribs•Admin} 02:06, 19 August 2014 (BST)
Support. I didn't go looking at all the template info for nothing, and it makes life easier for crafting recipes. :) Chocohead ^{Nag• Edits• Staff} 02:11, 19 August 2014 (BST)
Support. After some tweaks I now like how it looks. Retep998 ^{Bunny Overlord•talk•contribs} 03:03, 19 August 2014 (BST)
Support. I likely this and would be good for readers who just want a quick glance of the recipe -- SoraZodia^talk 03:27, 19 August 2014 (BST)

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~~# Conditional support. The rendering is currently broken on my end. [1]. Fix it and I'll support it. Retep998 ^{Bunny Overlord•talk•contribs} 02:18, 19 August 2014 (BST)~~

I was trying to do something. I undid my edits. Look at it again. -- SatanicSanta^{Talk•Contribs•Admin} 02:24, 19 August 2014 (BST)

I dislike that it isn't using the fancy bitmap font. Retep998 ^{Bunny Overlord•talk•contribs} 02:28, 19 August 2014 (BST)

There, I changed one so you can compare. Happy now? Chocohead ^{Nag• Edits• Staff} 02:38, 19 August 2014 (BST)<

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Neutral. Just as easy to put "This recipe is shapeless" in the recipe section, but I honestly don't care. -- Padfoote ^{Staff • Talk • Contributions} 02:12, 19 August 2014 (BST)

Staff Nomination

Gideonseymour (t · c) is becoming an active wiki editor. His edits are of a high quality, and his guide, Hardcore Questing Mode: An In-Depth Guide, is one of few up to date resources for the mod. As I (Padfoote) will be retiring in the near future, I am nominating Gideonseymour to join the wiki team and to be my replacement.

Discussion

The previous discussion that took place here can be found on User:TheSatanicSanta/RealSketch, due to it not belonging on this page. Thank you. -- SatanicSanta^{Talk•Contribs•Admin} 19:53, 13 August 2014 (BST)

I think that he should be on the Wiki team. What? No. I'm totally not talking about myself. --Gideonseymour ^{Talk-Edits-Trial} 04:19, 14 August 2014 (BST)

lol. -- SatanicSanta^{Talk•Contribs•Admin} 04:26, 14 August 2014 (BST)

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Support. My reasons are above. -- Padfoote ^{Staff • Talk • Contributions} 22:54, 12 August 2014 (BST)
Support. He's active, he's chill, his edits are of high quality. -- SatanicSanta^{Talk•Contribs•Admin} 23:20, 12 August 2014 (BST)
Support I can't get on right now, but if it's a vote you're after you have mine. -- -- The preceding unsigned comment was added by Succubism (talk • contribs)

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Neutral. Hasn't quite been around long enough for me to feel confident in voting for him, but I ain't gonna vote against him Retep998 ^{Bunny Overlord•talk•contribs} 23:21, 12 August 2014 (BST)
Neutral. Looking back over it, he actually hasn't done as much as I'd thought, so maybe someone with a little more experience is needed. He might well be a good staff member, so I won't oppose it, but he'd need a little more experience before I'd fully support it. Chocohead ^{Nag• Edits• Staff} 14:23, 13 August 2014 (BST)

Staff Nomination

Chocohead (t · c) is a very active user of the wiki, and has been here for a decent amount of time. The articles he creates and edits follow the style guide, and all the other guidelines. He has been consistently performing edits on the wiki since mid-June. For these reasons, I am nominating Chocohead to be a member of the FTB Wiki Article Editing team.

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Support. -- SatanicSanta^{Talk•Contribs•Admin} 23:20, 11 August 2014 (BST)
Support. Reasons stated in nomination. -- Padfoote ^{Staff • Talk • Contributions} 23:29, 11 August 2014 (BST)
Support. User is extremely active and performs high quality edits. --RealSketch ^{•Staff •Talk •Contributions} 23:34, 11 August 2014 (BST)
Support. Seems mostly competent. Retep998 ^{Bunny Overlord•talk•contribs} 00:56, 12 August 2014 (BST)

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Translator Nomination

Luxim appears to show high understanding of how the translation system works, and seems to understand English and French very well. I have checked his/her translation of gpelp:Links (archival note: link changed to Gamepedia Help Wiki from Help:Links) using Google Translate, and it is mostly correct (there are a few slip ups that are probably due to either Google Translate or English -> French difficulties within the languages). Luxim is extremely active, and has been since a couple of weeks ago. For these reasons, I am nominating Luxim to be an official French translator on the FTB Wiki Translation Team. -- Satanic Santa^{Admin•Editor} 16:33, 23 May 2014 (BST)

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Support. I already stated my reasons. -- Satanic Santa^{Admin•Editor} 16:38, 23 May 2014 (BST)
Support. I've checked the above link Santa gave with Bing Translator, and noted only minor mistakes (again, most likely due to them being differences in the languages). Luxim has also show to be a very active translator. -- Padfoote (talk) 16:43, 23 May 2014 (BST)
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Jin bo bo
17:30, 30 May 2014 (BST)

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Staff Nomination

RealSketch appears to be very enthusiastic, and creates very informative and, for the most part, well-formatted articles. He has been consistently performing edits on the wiki since mid-January, with short breaks in between; which staff do as well. He has recently begun maintaining the Advanced Genetics articles, and is doing a very good job at that. For these reasons, I am nominating RealSketch to be a member of the FTB Wiki Article Editing team.

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Support. I already stated my reasons. -- Satanic Santa^{Admin•Editor} 22:42, 14 June 2014 (BST)
Support. More staff pls Retep998 ^{Bunny Overlord•talk•contribs} 22:53, 14 June 2014 (BST)
Support. My reasoning is stated above thanks to Santa. -- Padfoote^{Staff • Talk • Contributions} 23:06, 14 June 2014 (BST)
Support. The articles mentionned above are complete and well-formatted. -- Luxim (talk) 13:41, 17 June 2014 (BST)

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Translator Nomination

Luxim appears to show high understanding of how the translation system works, and seems to understand English and French very well. I have checked his/her translation of Help:Links using Google Translate, and it is mostly correct (there are a few slip ups that are probably due to either Google Translate or English -> French difficulties within the languages). Luxim is extremely active, and has been since a couple of weeks ago. For these reasons, I am nominating Luxim to be an official French translator on the FTB Wiki Translation Team. -- Satanic Santa^{Admin•Editor} 16:33, 23 May 2014 (BST)

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Support. I already stated my reasons. -- Satanic Santa^{Admin•Editor} 16:38, 23 May 2014 (BST)
Support. I've checked the above link Santa gave with Bing Translator, and noted only minor mistakes (again, most likely due to them being differences in the languages). Luxim has also show to be a very active translator. -- Padfoote (talk) 16:43, 23 May 2014 (BST)
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Motion to allow new users upload images

Since images are a huge part of the wiki, I suggest allowing new users to upload images. --

Jin bo bo

17:26, 11 January 2014 (GMT)

Discussion

Hi, I am a new user. I cannot vote, but I can give my opinion. Since I became part of the wiki, I have needed to upload images sometimes. For me, getting the images uploaded, was not a big problem. It took 1/2 a week and could easily find the place where to put them. Of course, it would be easier if I could upload them myself, but in the way it is done right now, there is a strict regulation on the naming, so it won't quickly become a mess and uploading offending or wrong images is impossible because someone is checking everything. --Newnottakenname (talk) 12:51, 12 January 2014 (GMT)

The only regulations are that block images be prefixed with Block, image icons be sent to retep, tilesheets be prefixed with Tilesheet, and crafting grid tank overlays be prefixed with Tank. I wouldn't count that as strict. :P --

Jin bo bo

13:43, 12 January 2014 (GMT)

Well actually, nobody should even care about what tilesheets are prefixed as since they can't import a tilesheet without a butt anyway. But the Block and Tank rules? Totally strict. Even I didn't know those rules :D PonyButt (talk) 23:17, 12 January 2014 (GMT)

Strict my butt. Stop using your bot to make normal edits like this. --

Jin bo bo

02:28, 22 January 2014 (GMT)

So, since this has happened, the majority of uploads by new users have been what should be included in tilesheets. I think it needs to be more obvious that users do not upload texture files. Maybe we could have a big fat warning at the top of Special:Upload that says something like "If this file would be used in a Navbox, imageicon parameter, or any crafting grid template, do not upload it. Instead, send it in a zip file named the same as the mod to Retep998. -- Satanic Santa^SysOp•talk 08:41, 7 March 2014 (GMT)

I suppose that can be arranged. --

Jin bo bo

13:19, 7 March 2014 (GMT)

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Jin bo bo
17:26, 11 January 2014 (GMT)

Support. I'll support this as part of helping the wiki be more welcoming to new users. What if people decide to try and upload their own tilesheets and get all annoying when they realise it doesn't work? -- AgentTadpole · Staff ^talk_contribs 01:47, 12 January 2014 (GMT)

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Conditional support. I support this so long as Jinbobo is personally responsible for deleting all junk images. -- PonyButt (talk) 20:11, 11 January 2014 (GMT)
- Conditional support. I agree, we all know this is gonna happen. --Alistaire (talk) 21:21, 11 January 2014 (GMT)
- Conditional support. Yeah, basically that. SatanicSanta ^{Staff · talk ·contribs} 23:42, 11 January 2014 (GMT)
- Or we lower the threshold for the account to be autoconfirmed. You guys aren't doing anything to spam posts anyway. --
  Jin bo bo
  04:37, 12 January 2014 (GMT)
Conditional support. I'm all for this As long as before the image goes out to the public a staff member checks the image. -- Christophernjsp_>Talk 08:14, 21 January 2014 (GMT)

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Template Requests

Infusion Altar crafting grid
Essence Refiner crafting grid request - Ars Magica 2's ways of creating its essences involves the use of the Essence Refiner which uses a GUI different from the vanilla crafting GUI. It's possible to use Template Cg/Crafting Table but that may confuse readers. (I have already uploaded a image file of the Refiner's GUI for use/compare)-- SoraZodia^talk 04:56, 17 August 2014 (BST)

~~This one will be a little tricky, but I'll work on it. -- SatanicSanta^{Talk•Contribs•Admin} 18:40, 17 August 2014 (BST)~~

Is there anyway to update the canning machine's template to the new layout in one template since depending on which of the 4 (1,2,3,4) modes it's on, the GUI arrows and slots change?

Could I get a blast furnace template too?

And the IC2 bottling plant?

And the solid canner?

And the block cutting machine? The block cutting machine doesn't have the warning triangle if it has a blade in, so looks like this, and so would probably be better for templates.

IC2's added lots of new stuff ;) Chocohead ^{Nag• Edits• Staff} 20:24, 17 August 2014 (BST)

~~PS: Is there anyway I can help you, since there's a lot to do for one person?~~

(This is directed towards SoraZodia as well) Basically, all you need to do is give me the GUI images from the assets folder, and tell me what each slot does. -- SatanicSanta^{Talk•Contribs•Admin} 22:23, 17 August 2014 (BST)

Does it matter if it has the stuff at the side (progress bars and the like?) Chocohead ^{Nag• Edits• Staff} 22:34, 17 August 2014 (BST)

By GUI images, does it include the animation image it uses to show progress or just the GUI image in general? If it's the latter, shouldn't the uploaded file do the trick?

The 5 small circles arranged in a "+" pattern inside a big circle are the Essence Refiner's input slots where the player may insert the appropriate item (or any items/blocks in general). The small circle found outside the big circle is where the Refiner outputs the essences. There's a rectangular slot on top of the big circle but it's meant to be used as a way to lock the Refiner via Runes combinations (The uploaded file had it edited out) -- SoraZodia^talk 14:31, 18 August 2014 (BST)

Animations are not used. -- SatanicSanta^{Talk•Contribs•Admin} 17:01, 18 August 2014 (BST)

Template:Cg/Essence Refiner is done. Now to work on Chocohead's requests. -- SatanicSanta^{Talk•Contribs•Admin} 17:34, 18 August 2014 (BST)

When uploading them, what do I do with the inventory slots under the machine GUI? Can I just give the raw assets files to you and you can sort them out for me? Chocohead ^{Nag• Edits• Staff} 20:17, 18 August 2014 (BST)

~~Just hand it over to me and I'll handle it. -- SatanicSanta^{Talk•Contribs•Admin} 23:41, 18 August 2014 (BST)~~
~~Link: https://www.mediafire.com/?pydql52bs9ve65e Long Explanation of each one (which was perfectly indented when I copy and pasted it):~~
For the Solid Canner:

The left slot is for items to be canned

The middle slot is for cells/fuel rods to have the items canned into

The right slot is for the outputted item

The slot underneath the energy icon is for batteries
For the Bottling Plant:

The top slot going into the tank is input for filled cells

The bottom slot going into the tank is the input for empty cells

The slot coming out of the tank is for the outputted full cells

The tank stores liquid that either taken either from cells or pumped in

The slot underneath the energy icon is for batteries
For the Canning Machine

Fluid Enrich:

The top left slot is for items to be canned into (CF Backpack or CF Sprayer for example)

The middle slot is the item to be enriched

The left tank is the fluid to be enriched

The right slot is for items which are full (eg: A full CF Backpack, or CF Sprayer)

The right tank is for the enriched fluid (which didn't fit in an item or the item was full)

Fill Cell From Tank Mode:

The top left slot is for cells to be filled

The middle slot is unavailable

The left tank is the fluid to be filled into a cell

The right slot is for cells which are full

The right tank is unused

Drain From Cell Into Tank Mode:

The top left slot is for cells to be drained

The middle slot is unavailable

The left tank is unused

The right slot is for emptied items

The right tank is for the emptied fluid

Canning Mode:

The top left slot is for cells or fuel rods to be canned into

The middle slot is for items to be canned

The left tank is unused

The right slot is for canned items

The right tank is unused

The slot underneath the energy icon is for batteries
For the Block Cutting Machine:

The top left slot is for blocks to be cut

The middle slot (in between the energy icon and output slot) is where the Block Cutting Blades go

The right slot is the output

The 4 slots on the far right are for upgrades

The bottom left slot is for batteries
For the Blast Furnace:

The top left slot is for the iron to go

The bottom 2 left slots is for the Air Cells and the Empty Cell return

The lower right 2 slots are for the outputted Refined Iron and Slag

The 2 slots in the top right are for upgrades
~~There we go, ask if you don't understand any of it :) Chocohead ^{Nag• Edits• Staff} 23:58, 18 August 2014 (BST)~~
I've got another request so I can finish Advanced Solars. Can I get the molecular transformer GUI? Here's a link to the GUI, and a screenshot of an example, so you can see what it looks like. The top slot is for input, the bottom for output, and the box on the right is for the info (EU needed, progress, needed item names etc). I'm not sure if you'd rather use the NEI one opposed to the actual GUI, since the actual GUI has irrelevant/changeable things like progress and time taken while the NEI one makes more sense for the EU needed. ;) Chocohead ^{Nag• Edits• Staff} 21:17, 25 August 2014 (BST)

~~Done Template:Cg/Molecular_Transformer Retep998 ^{Bunny Overlord•talk•contribs} 15:16, 26 August 2014 (BST)~~

Resource page tooltips

I hereby decree that in the infobox for resource pages, each icon must add the mod name to their tooltip using my fancy new Resource Icon template.

For example instead of

{{Gc|Copper Ore|mod=IC2}}

we do

{{RI|Copper Ore|IC2}}

which looks like this:

Copper has been reformatted to use this new style as a demonstration.

🐇Retep 998🐇^{🐰Bunny Overlord🐰}

I have a complaint. Shouldn't |imageicon have {{O|ingotCopper}} so that it will cycle through all the copper, rather than just GregTech's horrific coloured one? Chocohead ^{Nag• Edits• Staff} 13:51, 31 December 2014 (UTC)