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Auto-generated Mods List
See Template talk:Mods. I'm not sure what we would do about translating mod names... maybe it could automatically grab the mod article's title? That could work. -Xbony2 (talk) 13:33, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Using magical powers to summon and  ... I bet you've seen this already, but neither of you have responded to it. And you guys are the only ones who can edit the main page anyway (going to bother  too cause why not). -Xbony2 (talk) 00:56, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I've already seen this. I'll look into it soon. 🐇 R e t e p 9 9 8 🐇🐰 Bunny Overlord 🐰 22:15, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I have absolutely no idea how to do this. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 23:02, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Choco does :P


 * -Xbony2 (talk) 23:12, 7 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I added part of the language functionality. Below is a run for German.


 * (see also)
 * The title part needs to be worked on though :P
 * -Xbony2 (talk) 11:18, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Category overhaul
Everything related to categories is terrible. To start, we have changed the policy to allow for multiple categories per page. To make this more useful, we will be creating more descriptive categories. The following list of new categories will be updated as we add more:



We are also going to be renaming some categories and reevaluating their usefulness. The following categories need to be renamed and/or reevaluated:


 * Base
 * Resource Page
 * Transformation
 * Other
 * Converters
 * Portable
 * Sorting
 * Pipes
 * Tubes
 * Conduit
 * Modules
 * Attributes
 * Redpower
 * Miscellaneous Automation

The following categories have been replaced:


 * Documentation has been replaced with
 * Electric has been replaced with
 * Attributes has been replaced with

This project is more clearly documented on its project page.

Please discuss stuff. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 22:14, 8 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Okay so I have a few ideas with some of those; namely pipes, conduits and tubes etc..
 * My suggestion is to use categories that are bit more inclusive such as, , which could each respectively classify things like BC pipes, IC2 Cable and Fluiducts. Another group of categories to assist this could be , , and  which would classify items such as IC2 Batteries as well as BC Tanks
 * These could then also be supplemented (only for the energy ones) by the specifics such as or.


 * To recap how this would look
 * A BC Wooden pipe would be categorized as -
 * An IC2 Cable would be --
 * A TE Energy Cell would be --
 * An OpenBlocks Tank would be -
 * Wolfman_123_ ·&#32;✉ F T B  Wiki Staff  04:37, 12 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Small continuation after looking through some more categories; I believe is perfectly fine as it's simply just Steve's Carts modules which would be categorized as -
 * I also believe is fine however it may need a renaming to  or something like that (I think this is the word Forestry uses to describe them, but please don't quote me on that)
 * Wolfman_123_ ·&#32;✉ F T B  Wiki Staff  04:50, 12 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Last one I hope...
 * Can someone please explain what the hell is supposed to be as I don't really see much of a link between all of the content.
 * Wolfman_123_ ·&#32;✉ F T B  Wiki Staff  04:52, 12 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I think is being used for machines that would be part of a large-scale industrial base? I'm not entirely sure though, there's one or two outliers in that.
 * Maybe it's for for pages that act as the base point for some form of industrialization, and are built on from there? Like 'components' but larger scale?
 * You're right though, there is not a lot of consistency across that category. PaladinAHOne  Staff (talk) 07:01, 12 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Oh god then I realized that Forge and FML were in ... What the hell was this category even?? PaladinAHOne  Staff (talk) 19:44, 12 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Base is one of those categories that you just wonder what the hell went wrong. Really, it should either just have base mods like Forge and FML in, or they should go in and I guess  deleted.  Chocohead  Nag • Edits • Staff 19:50, 12 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm not quite sure what to do about Forge and FML, but I have an idea for all the generators in that category sticking with the theme above.
 * Wolfman_123_ ·&#32;✉ F T B  Wiki Staff  23:56, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Wolfman_123_ ·&#32;✉ F T B  Wiki Staff  23:56, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Wolfman_123_ ·&#32;✉ F T B  Wiki Staff  23:56, 12 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Base was for energy generators. The problem with Modules is it's too broad. It could mean SC modules, modules of mods, etc. Same goes for Attributes. I agree with your transportation stuff. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 02:51, 13 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Are you continuing on doing this? —  NickTheRed37  ᐸ t · ru.MCW user c · ru translator  13:18, 14 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I've been busy with other stuff, but it will be completed at some point. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 19:10, 14 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I may later think of an image of what I want to have as a category tree. — NickTheRed37  ᐸ t · ru.MCW user c · ru translator  06:13, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


 * For those interested, I have been working on the categorization stuff. I moved -> . -Xbony2 (talk) 14:48, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * So, uh, what is a consumer called? Like, Macerator (IndustrialCraft 2) or Induction Smelter. I'd propose something like:


 * Macerator (IndustrialCraft 2): --- (btw, should we do anything about the Crushing category, or not?)
 * Induction Smelter: ---
 * Remote Thermal Monitor: --- (nuclear may need to be re-evalulated too)

-Xbony2 (talk) 15:11, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Why did you put in ? :P  Chocohead  Nag • Edits • Staff 22:29, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I didn't do it! :P I'm not even listed in the history of the page. -Xbony2 (talk) 22:46, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * So you just edited ... Alistaire14820 added Miner to it years ago. :| Our categories are so screwed up.  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 23:22, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * btw, can you look over Energy Units? Thanks. -Xbony2 (talk) 23:31, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * since nobody loves me, I'm going ahead with my proposition :P -Xbony2 (talk) 13:33, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

I have created a utility that can help us along with phase 1 of the Category Overhaul greatly. It requires Ruby, and the mediawiki_api gem created by wikimedia (be sure to use 0.3.1 as the newer versions are broken). You can find it in the SatanicBot repo. You will need to create your own secure.txt file with the formatting "USERNAME \newline PASSWORD". Alternatively you can just edit your clone of generalutils to use your username and password. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 23:00, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Examples on Machine Pages
Idea: Should pages about machines or devices for which we have templates have an either blank or filled example of that  on them? This idea comes from the fact that there are currently some machine pages that have screenshots of their GUIs, but we built the s to make it so we don't need to use screenshots. - PaladinAHOne Staff (talk) 21:12, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Sort of like Anvil (The Mists of RioV) and Dire Crafting Table? -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 21:18, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes we should have an example for each machine using their respective Cg template. It should be placed in the Usage section on the machine's page, maybe under a subsection of the Usage section. 🐇 R e t e p 9 9 8 🐇🐰 Bunny Overlord 🐰 04:23, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * That’s a good idea. I agree with how Retep wants to position it. —  Agent NickTheRed37  ( Kirk to   Enterprise ) — Russian Translator and Minepedian 15:03, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Templates that may want to be made
(Altars are popular these days) -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 01:47, 2 November 2015 (UTC) -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 00:31, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Cg/Runic Altar - PaladinAHOne  Staff (talk) 07:36, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Cg/Blood Altar - PaladinAHOne Staff (talk) 07:46, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Cg/SAG Mill
 * Cg/Alloy Smelter/Ender IO
 * Cg/The Vat
 * Cg/Slice'N'Splice


 * Cg/Chemical Decomposer
 * Cg/Chemical Fusion Chamber
 * Cg/Chemical Fission Chamber

All from MineChem. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 20:51, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I think over the free days I'll create the template for the Decomposer. --LuminousLizard de-native / "en-B2" (talk) 21:54, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

-Xbony2 (talk) 13:20, 30 December 2015 (UTC) -Xbony2 (talk) 13:22, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Cg/Alloy Smelter/GregTech 4
 * Cg/Extruder

Reupload a file
For some reason, autoconfirmed users cannot reupload files (which is something I highly disagree with for any wiki, especially after being a long time contributor at the Minecraft Wiki, but that is another topic for another place). So I figured I would post a reupload request here.

I would like to upload this image as a new version of File:GUI High Oven Solid.png, as the icon should not be shown when an item is in the slot, and there is never a case of a solid recipe with no output (thus just removing the icon saves code/effort). –KnightMiner t/c 16:07, 3 November 2015 (UTC)


 * . This wiki uses a somewhat despotic staff system, putting users in uneven conditions. Luckily I was accepted as a Russian translator in the team a long time ago. —  Agent NickTheRed37  ( Kirk to   Enterprise ) — Russian Translator and Minepedian 16:15, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * if you have complaints voice them to the admins (retep and I) or put them on the issue tracker --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 17:06, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * According to Special:ListGroupRights, users have the upload right but do not have either the reupload or reupload-own right. I think we should give out at least reupload-own to autoconfirmed users and reupload to editors. What do you think ? Anyway, if we do decide to change the rights, we'd have to ask Gamepedia and they'd have to do the change. As for you Nick, if you have any suggestions on how to improve the staff system, feel free to provide suggestions rather than just criticizing us for being despotic. 🐇 R e t e p 9 9 8 🐇🐰 Bunny Overlord 🐰 19:28, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * While discussing user rights, can the,  , and   rights also be added to either the autoconfirmed or editor group? Move page vandalism is very rare from autoconfirmed users from what I've seen on other wikis (and even more rare from appointed usergroups), and its just about as easy to revert as any other edit. –KnightMiner t/c 22:40, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I think we should add reupload-own, move-own, and suppressredirect to either editor or reviewer (see issue #27). --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 00:15, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
 * An “editor” is a more general group. I would also agree with KnightMiner being appointed as an editor. —  Agent NickTheRed37  ( Kirk to   Enterprise ) — Russian Translator and Minepedian 15:34, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Mods that need devoted editors
Hey guys. What mods do you think need devoted editors? These would be kind of like mod-appointed developers, except that they would be recruited by higher-up FTB Staff Members. My current list goes something like:
 * All SlimeKnights mods (Tinkers' Construct, Tinkers' Mechworks, Tinkers' Steelworks, Natura)
 * Engineer's Toolbox
 * All CoFH mods (Thermal Expansion of all notable versions, Thermal Foundation, CoFH Core, etc)
 * Thaumcraft of all versions
 * Mekanism
 * Universal Electricity mods

Please provide your thoughts. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 21:28, 11 November 2015 (UTC) on Universal Electricity. That mod is dead. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 22:17, 11 November 2015 (UTC) oh and... -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 22:20, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * ComputerCraft
 * OpenComputers
 * RFTools
 * IndustrialCraft 2
 * BuildCraft
 * Ender IO
 * Extra Utilities
 * MineFactory Reloaded
 * Blood Magic
 * Botania

--LuminousLizard de-native / "en-B2" (talk) 09:50, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I already mentioned that xd -Xbony2 (talk) 12:54, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry ... should only mean that I'm working something about it. --LuminousLizard de-native / "en-B2" (talk) 20:17, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Final list for slow
Mods
 * SlimeKnights mods
 * Engineer's Toolbox
 * CoFH Mods
 * Thaumcraft of all versions
 * Mekanism
 * ComputerCraft
 * OpenComputers
 * RFTools
 * IC2
 * BuildCraft
 * Ender IO
 * Extra Utilities
 * MineFactory Reloaded
 * Blood Magic
 * Botania
 * Draconic Evolution
 * Reika's mods
 * I'll gladly deal with these, I'm already working on RoC, ReC is coming soon once I get home. (Need the tilesheet files, which are on my home pc). ChromatiCraft is the only mod I'm unfamiliar with, so someone else may have to do it or let it wait a bit until I become familiar with it. Up to you guys. Luke14199 (talk) 11:09, 10 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Steve's Factory Manager
 * Factorization

Getting Started Guide writers
 * Ender IO
 * Draconic Evolution
 * Mekanism
 * Big Reactors
 * Logistics Pipes

General Guide writers
 * Mystcraft
 * Forestry
 * ChromaticCraft

Anything else you or the modpack team deem necessary. We also need translators of all languages, and general editors of all types.

--  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 22:16, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * More reliable communications with the rest of the organization. - PaladinAHOne Staff (talk) 20:50, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * meh -Xbony2 (talk) 21:50, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I'd recommend using the teamspeak we have tbh, anyone working on the same project could communicate more efficiently. Admins could have their own channel, etc etc. Or if this is not an option, perhaps we could setup a forum or subforum somewhere? Just my 2 cents. Luke14199 (talk) 11:03, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Teamspeak is kind of annoying because not everyone can use a microphone. We have Slack and IRC right now and it seems to be doing okay. We do have a subforum, along with the wiki staff's own barely-used hidden subforum. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 11:48, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The wiki staff are super-crazy, I don't want to talk to them :P -Xbony2 (talk) 13:24, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Modpack Namespace
Proposed idea: Create a new wiki Namespace specifically for modpacks. This would mean that pages about modpacks (like Infinity 1.7 / FTB Infinity Evolved), in stead of being at the address http://ftb.gamepedia.com/Infinity_1.7, would be at the address http://ftb.gamepedia.com/Modpack/Infinity_1.7. - PaladinAHOne Staff (talk) 18:56, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * If we are talking about an actual namespace, it would be Modpack:Infinity 1.7 rather than Modpack/Infinity 1.7. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 19:02, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * why? -Xbony2 (talk) 22:54, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Redefining Stubs
As per IRC conversation, I think we should redefine what we currently consider stubs. Right now, stubs are just subjectively short articles. However, some pages really can't have much information, thus making them stubs and clogging our backlog and maintenance categories. I think gave a good new definition of stub: ''I think a stub should be defined as a page that is lacking a significant amount of information. For things that are simply a component, having a recipe and saying what they are a component for is the most you can do, and would make them not a stub. For more advanced things they could have a ton written on them relative to a simple component, but still be a stub''. What does everyone think? --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 23:16, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * When was it otherwise defined differently? My definition of a stub is a page lacking important information that could be desired. -Xbony2 (talk) 00:49, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * We used Wikipedia's definition, which is a bit different. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 01:36, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Blocking policy
Feed The Beast Wiki:Blocking policy should be a thing. And while this message sits in this noticeboard, someone at some point will do it. That someone is not me because I worded it badly when I tried and it looked stupid. -Xbony2 (talk) 23:25, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I think the whole principle of a noticeboard is rather undermined if things are done after the requests are removed from it ;)  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 23:31, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Issues with new JS/Curse/MW
In the time since yesterday's Javascript edits (and whatever the heck Curse did to the servers), all multi-page Crafting Grids can no longer cycle between pages. They remain stuck to the first page. Additionally, the 'New Section' entry box at the top of the Staff Noticeboard is nonfunctional; attempting to use it bounces the editor to trying to add a new section to the Wiki Main Page (and gives them a permission error because the Main Page is protected). - PaladinAHOne Staff (talk) 09:44, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I just fixed the New Section (that isn't Curse's fault, it's my own). But, it'll add to the very bottom and won't update the issue number, so... quick vote: should we remove the New Section bar or the issue count? (or maybe there's a clever solution that will automagically count the number of title bars, but that wouldn't be great if it increased the load time by a lot)
 * Navboxes default to being open. This is a bug. Ore Dictionary support is broken at the moment, but hopefully that'll be fixed soon (#BlameSanta).
 * Some extension shouldn't be here. I'll probably list them on the Administrators' Noticeboard instead. -Xbony2 (talk) 20:23, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The navboxes defaulting to being open is because of the state parameters, by the way. If you remove the state parameter from the main Navbox call, it will close. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 19:37, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I removed the input box. -Xbony2 (talk) 14:11, 7 February 2016 (UTC)