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Motion to allow new users upload images
Since images are a huge part of the wiki, I suggest allowing new users to upload images. --  Jin bo  bo  17:26, 11 January 2014 (GMT)

Discussion
Hi, I am a new user. I cannot vote, but I can give my opinion. Since I became part of the wiki, I have needed to upload images sometimes. For me, getting the images uploaded, was not a big problem. It took 1/2 a week and could easily find the place where to put them. Of course, it would be easier if I could upload them myself, but in the way it is done right now, there is a strict regulation on the naming, so it won't quickly become a mess and uploading offending or wrong images is impossible because someone is checking everything. --Newnottakenname (talk) 12:51, 12 January 2014 (GMT)
 * The only regulations are that block images be prefixed with Block, image icons be sent to retep, tilesheets be prefixed with Tilesheet, and crafting grid tank overlays be prefixed with Tank. I wouldn't count that as strict. :P --  Jin bo  bo  13:43, 12 January 2014 (GMT)
 * Well actually, nobody should even care about what tilesheets are prefixed as since they can't import a tilesheet without a butt anyway. But the Block and Tank rules? Totally strict. Even I didn't know those rules :D PonyButt (talk) 23:17, 12 January 2014 (GMT)
 * Strict my butt. Stop using your bot to make normal edits like this. --  Jin bo  bo  02:28, 22 January 2014 (GMT)

So, since this has happened, the majority of uploads by new users have been what should be included in tilesheets. I think it needs to be more obvious that users do not upload texture files. Maybe we could have a big fat warning at the top of Special:Upload that says something like "If this file would be used in a Navbox, imageicon parameter, or any crafting grid template, do not upload it. Instead, send it in a zip file named the same as the mod to Retep998. --  Satanic Santa SysOp•talk 08:41, 7 March 2014 (GMT)
 * I suppose that can be arranged. --  Jin bo  bo  13:19, 7 March 2014 (GMT)

Polls
Voting ends in 5 days. Uploading has been enabled for normal users.

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 * 1)  --  Jin  bo  bo  17:26, 11 January 2014 (GMT)
 * I'll support this as part of helping the wiki be more welcoming to new users. What if people decide to try and upload their own tilesheets and get all annoying when they realise it doesn't work? -- AgentTadpole &middot; Staff talk contribs 01:47, 12 January 2014 (GMT)

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 * I support this so long as Jinbobo is personally responsible for deleting all junk images. -- PonyButt (talk) 20:11, 11 January 2014 (GMT)
 * I agree, we all know this is gonna happen. --Alistaire (talk) 21:21, 11 January 2014 (GMT)
 * Yeah, basically that. SatanicSanta Staff &middot; talk &middot;contribs 23:42, 11 January 2014 (GMT)
 * Or we lower the threshold for the account to be autoconfirmed. You guys aren't doing anything to spam posts anyway. --  Jin bo  bo  04:37, 12 January 2014 (GMT)
 * I'm all for this As long as before the image goes out to the public a staff member checks the image. -- Christophernjsp>Talk 08:14, 21 January 2014 (GMT)

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Staff nomination
Succubism on the FTB Forums has created detailed and informative guides on various mods, she is also recommended by various members of the FTB Team. Although she has yet to create an account on the wiki, I believe, judging by her works on the forum, that she would be able to follow the wiki formatting and content guidelines just fine. Her ability to create guides for mods is exceptional and would benefit the wiki greatly, therefore I nominate her to be a Wiki Editor on the FTB Wiki Team. --  Jin bo  bo  14:27, 12 November 2013 (GMT)

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Voting ends in 5 days. Vote ended with 3 support votes, Succubism will join the team.

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 * 1)  --  Jin  bo  bo  14:27, 12 November 2013 (GMT)
 * 2)  Her guides on the forum are a welcome source of information and always seem to be well researched. If she wants to join, she's welcome. -- MilConDoin (talk) 14:47, 12 November 2013 (GMT)
 * 3)  Her guides/cheat sheets for Thaumcraft and the many addons are wonderful. I'd welcome her onto the team -- SatanicSanta Staff &middot; talk &middot;contribs 15:26, 15 November 2013 (GMT)
 * 4)  This vote is purely based on the TC guide on the forums, which is of a very high standard. -- AgentTadpole Staff &middot; talk &middot; contribs 15:28, 15 November 2013 (GMT)

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Staff nomination
have proven to be a competent person to be on the wiki team. Although he has made some minor errors when creating articles, he has corrected a good amount of other problems, I find him willing to comply with our requests and therefore nominate him to be a Wiki Editor on the FTB Wiki Team. --  Jin bo  bo  = Wiki Team Lead =  10:57, 11 September 2013 (BST)

Polls
Voting ends in 5 days. Voting ended with 3 support votes, will join the team.

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You can vote if you have made at least 10 edits in the past 30 days.

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 * 1)  --  Jin  bo  bo  = Wiki Team Lead =  11:09, 11 September 2013 (BST)
 * 2)  I'd welcome you on the team, Santa -- -- AgentTadpole Staff &middot; talk &middot; contribs 14:54, 11 September 2013 (BST)
 * 3)  Anyone who can write semi-reasonable IC2/GT articles is fine by my watch. -- Retep998 (talk) 17:35, 11 September 2013 (BST)

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Remove the under construction notice on the main page
No wiki is complete, this message is redundant and in the way.

Polls
Voting ends in 3 days.

The poll concluded with 1 support vote and 1 conditional support, the message will be removed after the old crafting grids are converted to the new crafting grids. --  Jin bo  bo  = Wiki Team Lead =  16:53, 26 August 2013 (BST)

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 * The message is obviously redundant. --  Jin bo  bo  = Wiki Team Lead =  17:04, 23 August 2013 (BST)

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 * Once the crafting grid overhaul is done, and everything converted to the new system, then I'd be fine with removing the construction notice. Retep998 (talk) 17:57, 23 August 2013 (BST)
 * I agree. --  Jin bo  bo  = Wiki Team Lead =  14:30, 24 August 2013 (BST)

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Final stage of the crafting grid overhaul project
Before I begin recreating crafting grids and populating the ore dict, please decide whether you want to use the new system.

Benefits of the new system

 * Ore dictionary
 * Simpler invocation of tanks.
 * Simplified crafting grid template creation.
 * Infinite animation frames.
 * Variables in tooltips.
 * Full implementation of grid functionality.
 * Automatically resolve file names and links of items with mod variants in grids.

Downsides of the new system

 * Slightly more typing when implementing crafting grids in articles.
 * Cannot animate the ore dictionary and normal animations at the same time.

Comparisons
Note that some names of templates are not final and may change in the future.

Grids
Grids are much the same except that animation using a list is no longer supported, Instead you use a wrapper to active the animation. The grid template now automatically resolves of mod counterparts of items. Observe where the grid links to and what the tooltip displays. Variables are now also supported inside grids and tanks. All other old parameters are still supported.

Tanks
Before you have to type out a string of complicated code that I wouldn't even try to type to create a tank, now you only have to type out the type of liquid, the amount of liquid used, and the maximum amount of liquid. Also, in the old template, due to the way the it is implemented, it was impossible to generate a tooltip for tanks, now, a tooltip is generated automatically and does support variables like grids do. Another perk is to not need to capitalize the first letter of the liquid name.

Ore dictionary
An ore dictionary has now been implemented. To call it you use: produces:

Note that you call the ore dictionary directly with the normal grid template, set no-oredict to 1 if you do not want to use the ore dictionary: produces:

You also can call the grid display logic to achieve the same effect, the Template:Gc offers an shortcut to Template:Grid/Cell. produces:

You can also call the ore dict by supplying the ore dictionary with a tag name. A wrapper is created to achieve this effect: produces:

Crafting Grids
Creating crafting grids is now easier than ever. Compare the code of Template:Grid/Carpenter with Template:Cg/Carpenter.

Animation and slides
Animation and slide wrappers are created and can be used in lots of situations. They both cycle through divs and spans. A B  C  D  produces: A B  C  D   A  B  C  D  produces: A B  C  D

Implementation of crafting grids in articles
Crafting grids previously automatically cycle through items, now it does not, instead the user would have to click on buttons to flip through pages. Some stuff you normally will have to type to create tanks can be omitted here since it is included in the crafting grid template.

Polls
With all that said, please cast your vote below, voting ends in 1 week. Please make sure that you have read what have changed above before casting your vote.

The poll concluded with 10 support votes and 1 neutral votes, the new system shall be implemented and the old system shall be replaced. --  Jin bo  bo  = Wiki Team Lead =  15:37, 13 August 2013 (BST)

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Support

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 * I created these flippin' templates, if no one votes, the new system shall take over. Bwahahahahaha. -- Jinbobo SysOp ·&#32;BotOp ·&#32;talk ·&#32;contribs 17:58, 3 August 2013 (BST)
 * It seems like a very nice way to make the system more flexible, and more consistent between other templates. It is more complex, I agree, and could look a bit "scary" for some people, but should be better overall, I think. -- Throne3d (talk) 23:17, 3 August 2013 (BST)
 * I like it. Looks like it would make things easier on the coders. :) -- Masbk2 (talk) 10:44, 4 August 2013 (BST)
 * Vote cast for . --  Jin bo  bo  Wiki Team Lead 13:14, 4 August 2013 (BST)
 * Looks good and seems to work without problems. The extra work is mostly taking the time to adapt to the new methods. -- MilConDoin (talk) 15:08, 4 August 2013 (BST)
 * At last, the system I wanted is finally here. Yay! -- Retep998 (talk) 15:17, 5 August 2013 (BST)
 * I like it. The slide version would make adding different recipes to single pages very reader friendly. -- Quantumpugilist (talk) 07:59, 6 August 2013 (BST)
 * Presumably we can set up a bot to replace all existing crafting tables? It's going to be a hell of a replacement job otherwise -- AgentTadpole Staff &middot; talk &middot; contribs 10:34, 6 August 2013 (BST)
 * I'm all for the new system though I also support AgentTadpole's idea of trying to bot the changes for the existing pages. -- Beleriond (talk)
 * It is SO amazing and easy to use. |Figgycity |(Talk) 16:10, Thursday 8 August (GMT)

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Neutral

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 * Vote cast for --  Jin  bo  bo  Wiki Team Lead 11:38, 4 August 2013 (BST)

Template Requests

 * Infusion Altar crafting grid