User talk:TheSatanicSanta/Archive


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Welcome to the wiki

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Hello and welcome to the official FTB wiki, the team and I consider your edits quality but with a few flaws. All articles have a standard layout which you can read about on the Article creation guideline page, articles you created lacks a langbar at the bottom and isn't properly categorized. We also have various navigation box templates that will assist readers to navigate around relevant articles, we highly suggest such templates to be included at the bottom of articles and hope that you would do so too. Thank you for your contributions to the wiki. --  Jin bo  bo  = Wiki Team Lead =  16:47, 22 August 2013 (BST)
 * This template might help you choose what categories an article belongs to. You can categorize articles by adding   to the bottom of an article. On another note, are you interested in joining the team? --  Jin  bo  bo  = Wiki Team Lead =  16:59, 26 August 2013 (BST)

docs
please add documentation when creating templates. --  Jin bo  bo  18:31, 10 January 2014 (GMT)

LULZ
lolololololo

 Jin bo  bo  06:20, 9 February 2014 (GMT) 

SO BEAUTYFUL (no homo) -- Christophernjsp Staff &middot; Talk &middot;Contribs 06:49, 9 February 2014 (GMT)

A barnstar for you!

 * sucks you can only thank once, I was totally gonna spam the shit out of you. --  Satanic Santa Staff•talk•SysOp 00:25, 26 February 2014 (GMT)
 * lol nope --  Jin bo  bo  12:52, 26 February 2014 (GMT)

ur crafting grids
The crafting grids you requested has been done. And is it witches oven or witch's oven? lol --  Jin bo  bo  12:51, 26 February 2014 (GMT)
 * It's Witches Oven, I answered this on IRC at the exact same time you disconnected, because GG... --  Satanic Santa SysOp•talk 15:37, 26 February 2014 (GMT)

Guide credits
Guides don't need the credit page and template if they are already credited in the page history. --  Jin bo  bo  04:40, 10 April 2014 (BST)
 * k den --  Satanic Santa SysOp•talk 04:40, 10 April 2014 (BST)

verification/authorization
How does one go about becoming 'authorized', so my documentation does not have to be reviewed? -- Warlordjones (talk) 20:22, 17 April 2014 (BST)
 * AFAIK (and remember, I'm the wiki team newb) it stays like that until you get promoted to a higher rank on here. What those ranks are, I don't know though. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though. -- Padfoote (talk) 20:25, 17 April 2014 (BST)
 * Ah, ok, no worries. Just didn't want to keep bothering you guys to authorize my work. :) -- Warlordjones (talk) 21:04, 17 April 2014 (BST)
 * I check the recent changes constantly and will approve anything I know is correct. Anything else and I leave it for someone else to check. :P -- Padfoote (talk) 22:18, 17 April 2014 (BST)
 * To have your edits automatically reviewed, you need to be an "Autoconfirmed user". How you achieve that, I don't remember. I think it's something like 50 reviewed edits, but I could be wrong. --  Satanic Santa SysOp•talk 02:05, 18 April 2014 (BST)
 * I see, thanks --Warlordjones (talk) 08:35, 18 April 2014 (BST)
 * They way the review system works is that when a user makes an edit in the main, project and template namespaces, those edits will be marked for reviewing by reviewers and editors. If the page has at least one reviewed version of the page, then that version will be displayed for non-users, otherwise the latest version is always displayed. The review list is currently backed up to February 25th. The following is the default criteria for being autopromoted to an "Editor", they have the autochecked right and will automatically approve any edits they make, they can also review edits. I might tweak this setting in the future and make it more restrictive. --  Jin bo  bo  10:20, 18 April 2014 (BST)

Extra Utilities Icons
Here you are: http://www.mediafire.com/download/xsq3m832k1oauak/Extra_Utilities.zip

Hope I did it right, --Warlordjones (talk) 19:22, 18 April 2014 (BST)

P.S. Ignore the .DS_STORE and MAC_OSX files that show up (if they do) :/ They store file positioning and custom folder background info, if you were intrested, which is unlikely.
 * I'll work on that later this week. And I use OSX, so that file wouldn't be visible :P --  Satanic Santa SysOp•talk 23:12, 20 April 2014 (BST)

navlinks
avoid adding links on nodes. --  Jin bo  bo  20:14, 11 May 2014 (BST)
 * wut duz dis meen? --  Satanic Santa SysOp•talk 05:33, 12 May 2014 (BST)

tilesheet stuff
Here's the icons needed for AE and BM. Most are 32x32 like you asked, however some refused to resize without getting horribly messed up, so those are still 64x64. Link. -- Padfoote (talk) 16:50, 19 May 2014 (BST)
 * Awesome. I'll get Blood Magic done right now, and work on AE later today or tomorrow. --  Satanic Santa Admin • Editor  17:00, 19 May 2014 (BST)

Cg question
So I'm about to get started with some of the alchemy in Blood Magic, which requires a crafting template that we currently don't have. Do you know how to create one, and if so, what do you need me to do to help with it? -- Padfoote (talk) 01:30, 22 May 2014 (BST)
 * Just tell me how it works and give me an image of the GUI. I also need to know the name of the machine. --  Satanic Santa Admin • Editor  03:50, 22 May 2014 (BST)

Template shifting upon editing a page.
Hi, as you know I'm not familiar with the wiki that much, though I'm trying to watch some tutorials. Anyway, whenever I edit a page the template on the right always centers itself in the middle of the page, causing the text to go around it. This looks quite ugly and I don't understand how this happens. When it is reviewed Jin or you seem to fix it somehow? Thanks, --RealSketch (talk) 21:06, 25 May 2014 (BST)RealSketch
 * Are you talking about the infobox? And can you provide a link to an example for me to take a look at? -- Padfoote (talk) 21:10, 25 May 2014 (BST)

Yeah, the infobox. Have a look at this: http://wiki.feed-the-beast.com/ExtrabiomesXL --RealSketch (talk) 21:27, 25 May 2014 (BST)RealSketch
 * It looks like it's on the right side to me. -- Padfoote (talk) 21:28, 25 May 2014 (BST)

Sorry to bother you, it was just a one time thing that happens upon editing, refreshing the page set it back to normal. As I said, I'm not used to Wikis or their markup. :( --RealSketch (talk) 21:31, 25 May 2014 (BST)RealSketch
 * Don't worry about it. Things can be a little buggy sometimes. -- Padfoote (talk) 21:32, 25 May 2014 (BST)


 * Which "preview" option are you using? There is the Preview button on the top of the source edit box, next to the Wikitext tab, which will not show template info (crafting tables appear empty, etc). There is also the "show preview" button next to the "save changes" button, which should show you all of the correct stuff. Also, don't apologize for asking questions, I'm fine with answering all of the ones you have :P --  Satanic Santa Admin • Editor  21:35, 25 May 2014 (BST)

On the current page I was editing I forgot to preview it, my mind just went straight to clicking save. After it was saved, the infobox would appear in the center on the page, but after a refresh of the page it would go back to normal. Also, another question. Both of you are obviously good at Wiki editing, may I ask where/how you learnt all this markup? --RealSketch (talk) 21:47, 25 May 2014 (BST)RealSketch
 * 1. Okay, so it seems like the problem isn't really a problem, just a weird wiki hiccup? 2. Read some of the stuff linked in my talk archive, namely the stuff prior to joining the team. I also read the source for a lot of reviewed pages. I'm not gonna lie, I have a folder in my Wiki folder titled "Page Structures", where I keep layouts of the different types of common pages. I tend to just open one, copy all of it, then paste it into the redlink-edit page :P If you wanted, I could dropbox this folder so others could have it. --  Satanic Santa Admin • Editor  21:51, 25 May 2014 (BST)


 * RealSketch, I learned everything from looking at the Railcraft pages, and from the 10 or so links Santa sent me before I started doing edits. Feel free to drop by IRC, PM one of us, or stop by our talk pages if you have questions. -- Padfoote (talk) 22:00, 25 May 2014 (BST)

I sure wouldn't mind looking at it, could be quite useful. :) --RealSketch (talk) 21:54, 25 May 2014 (BST)RealSketch


 * Here you go: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/45lefduepa678o8/AACAG5jnDSSQRlworn06I5xja --  Satanic Santa Admin • Editor  21:56, 25 May 2014 (BST)

Thanks! Looks good! :) --RealSketch (talk) 21:57, 25 May 2014 (BST)RealSketch

Thaumcraft 4 tilesheet
Here are all the icons for the Thaumcraft 4 item however there are some naming difficulties since some of the items use colons in their name and Windows won't allow it in the file name. They are all in 32x32 format and can be found here. -- Madmanmayson (talk) 8:05, 26 May 2014 (BST)
 * I'll get started on it ASAP :) --  Satanic Santa Admin • Editor  04:20, 27 May 2014 (BST)

Translating pages not visible in translation interface?
Hello, I was wondering if there is a best way to translate the "single-item-related" pages on the wiki (such as the http://wiki.feed-the-beast.com/Redstone_Engine page) than to simply edit a new nameOfEnglishPage\fr page, since there is no category for this in the translation interface (those pages are maybe not marked for translation)? Is it just a MediaWiki lacking feature, or is it intended? I now take care of this since my translations are filled with links that leads nowhere. Have a nice day! -- Luxim (talk) 19:07, 14 June 2014 (BST)
 * I don't understand what you are asking. Are you asking what you are to do when you are linking to other pages? --  Satanic Santa Admin • Editor  21:39, 14 June 2014 (BST)
 * Sorry, I think I've been unclear. For example, you use the translation interface to translate a page, let's name it A. When you translate a link of the page A, in the page A/fr, the MediaWiki system automatically turn links that point to a page X into links pointing to a page X/fr. That looks like a great feature, but sometime X/fr don't exists yet (X has not been translated yet), and the page X is not listed in the translation interface, so there is no way to translate it later, excepts by manually creating a page named X/fr and pasting the source code of X, then translating it. That's clearly not convenient, and I was thus wondering if there is something we could do to ease this process. -- Luxim (talk) 21:15, 15 June 2014 (BST)


 * I'm still learning the translation extension, so correct me if I'm wrong about what you are saying. Here's what I understand

--  Satanic Santa Admin • Editor  22:53, 15 June 2014 (BST)
 * 1) Translate page A
 * 2) There's a link in page A that leads to page B
 * 3) Page B exists, but page B/languagecode doesn't exist
 * 4) Appears as a red link
 * 5) Page B has not been marked for translation <-- Is this the problem?
 * Yes, exactly! And when you have something in page A like "see page B for the detailed explanation", it's quite annoying to be unable to translate the page you want. Is there any way to get around this? -- Luxim (talk) 12:56, 17 June 2014 (BST)
 * Well, couldn't you go to B rather than B/fr, and see if it is marked for translation? I'm gonna mark a bunch of pages for translation one of these days, with, of course, so hopefully this problem won't be too bad? --  Satanic Santa Admin • Editor  18:58, 17 June 2014 (BST)
 *  Feed the translator  Ok! (Unfortunately, I can't change how links behaves in translations, the links destination is fully handled by the translation extension; if I write it turns into a link to the A/fr page automatically, I don't think there is a way to alter this behavior...) -- LuximStaff • Translator • Talk • Contributions 20:55, 17 June 2014 (BST)

IC2 Texture Request
Can I have the IC2 textures (http://www.mediafire.com/download/br31do12n3gqinm/IC2_Textures.zip) Turned into a sprite sheet so the Navbox isn't just all red squares? Chocohead (talk)

The blocks haven't been done correctly. You need to get the from NEI or your inventory. Just screenshot your inventory and crop the image down until you can only see the item, it should be 32x32 pixels.:) Don't fear, I did the exact same thing as you.--RealSketch (talk) 22:31, 17 June 2014 (BST)RealSketch
 * No you didn't :P You took gigantic in-world screenshots and (somehow had the patience to) remove the background. As Real said, you need to take the screenshots from in your inventory for the blocks, so they render like they would in-game. I've found that the Normal GUI scale is great for this, because it gives me a 32x32 image for each tile. --  Satanic Santa Admin • Editor  22:52, 17 June 2014 (BST)

...Gimp is very good for editing images. It didn't take me long.:P Anyway, I recommend Gimp for creating tiles. --RealSketch (talk) 23:03, 17 June 2014 (BST)RealSketch

Are the items ok though? Do I remove the background of the inventory off the block textures and split them into separate images too? Chocohead (talk) 15:54, 18 June 2014 (BST)
 * Only if the file in the assets folder looks different in the inventory. Also, you need to name them as exactly what they are in-game, currently you have them as unlocalized names. --  Satanic Santa Admin • Editor  15:59, 18 June 2014 (BST)

Will do. One more thing: do I just screenshot my inventory with all the blocks then, or split them up and remove the background? Chocohead (talk) 16:50, 18 June 2014 (BST)
 * Screenshot of NEI, then split the blocks up. -- Padfoote Staff • Talk • Contributions 17:13, 18 June 2014 (BST)

Do I leave the background they have then? Chocohead (talk) 17:32, 18 June 2014 (BST)
 * Nope. You want just the block. -- Padfoote Staff • Talk • Contributions 17:33, 18 June 2014 (BST)

IC2's ore textures are very hard to separate. This will take a long time :( Chocohead (talk) 17:37, 18 June 2014 (BST)
 * If you are using Photoshop I highly recommend making brushes for block shapes that appear a lot. --  Satanic Santa Admin • Editor  18:06, 18 June 2014 (BST)

...Or if you are using Gimp (/is better) then you have a colour selector, magic wand and other useful tools. Plus, I find Gimp more user-friendly, and the best part: it's free. You just need to zoom in and crop everything except the 32x32 pixel area of the item. Then export as PNG with (as Santa said), the exact name of the item/block. --RealSketch (talk) 18:44, 18 June 2014 (BST)RealSketch
 * Hmmmmmmm, 86 block textures needed 30 down. I'm getting there. Chocohead (talk) 18:51, 18 June 2014 (BST)

HUHAHAHHAHAHAHAH! It is done. http://www.mediafire.com/download/a8aal6ewa2z24h5/IC2_Textures_Fixed.zip Chocohead (talk) 20:52, 18 June 2014 (BST)
 * I did do it right, right? Chocohead (talk) 17:50, 20 June 2014 (BST)
 * Yes. I'll get started on it ASAP. --  Satanic Santa Admin • Editor  18:30, 20 June 2014 (BST)
 * Hurray! I'd miss those red squares, but they're everywhere on the wiki, and I'd rather have the item there. So I won't.  Chocohead Nag • Contributions 18:47, 20 June 2014 (BST)

Just realised, I missed a texture! Considering I didn't even know it existed an hour ago either. https://www.mediafire.com/?080snf3i7j7wlqo <- Link to it  Chocohead Nag • Contributions 23:00, 21 June 2014 (BST) Once you've added the textures, will they automatically go to all the items, or is there some voodoo wiki magic needed to make it work?  Chocohead Nag • Contributions 20:00, 22 June 2014 (BST)
 * They should just work like magic, unless the linked names are different than the tile names, which someone will have to alert me to because I won't be checking it. You also may need to hard refresh a few times for it to appear proper. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs 20:01, 22 June 2014 (BST)

Ok, I'll look for any that don't work once they're up, although I checked them in the zip.  Chocohead Nag • Contributions 20:09, 22 June 2014 (BST)


 * Hey Santa, while we're on the topic, can you or reptep figure out what's wrong with these Centrifuge tiles.
 * I've tried but I really don't know, it seems there's some conflict with Forestry? This issue also affects my guide on AG.
 * --  Real Sketch  •Staff •Talk •Contributions 21:00, 23 June 2014 (BST)

Any ETA until they are uploaded? All the old and red textures look ugly with a mod as big as IC2 :S  Chocohead Nag • Contributions 15:28, 24 June 2014 (BST)
 * It's about half done. It would have been done sooner but I decided to continue work on one of my mods. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs 19:32, 24 June 2014 (BST)
 * Santa is pretty quick with completing tiles, it won't be long now. ;)
 * --  Real Sketch  •Staff •Talk •Contributions 15:43, 24 June 2014 (BST)

I'd give you the new textures, but Thunderdark keeps adding more, so I'll give you them all at once when he's settled down more  Chocohead Nag • Additions  21:54, 29 June 2014 (BST)
 * I wouldn't even get to it until I finish the initial tilesheet. I've still gotta do Additional BC Objects, and Thaumcraft 4. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 01:50, 30 June 2014 (BST)


 * More than that...Advanced Genetics 1.7.2. Botania when I finally start it...etc.
 * Couldn't reptep do some? He seems like he's got a lot of time...
 * -- RealSketch •Staff •Talk •Contributions  09:56, 30 June 2014 (BST)
 * He doesn't usually do it unless I play Better Than Wolves on his server... --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 18:11, 30 June 2014 (BST)
 * I would say it's worth it. Such a great mod (rage inducing if you aren't careful though). :P -- Padfoote Staff • Talk • Contributions 21:56, 30 June 2014 (BST)
 * I can't stand it. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 22:07, 30 June 2014 (BST)

weee big text and the tilesheet is done so there you go :P --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 22:21, 30 June 2014 (BST)


 * How easy is it for you just to edit/add to it? There's new stuff, I missed a few things (such as crop sticks) and named the NanoSuit Chestplate wrong. As it's Bodyarmour. :S  Chocohead Nag • Additions  16:26, 1 July 2014 (BST)
 * EDIT: And the Composite Chestplate. It's a vest
 * EDIT2: And the Windmill. It's Wind Mill
 * Alright, I've fixed the Composite Vest, NanoSuit Bodyarmour, and Wind Mill. Let me know if anything else needs fixins --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 16:43, 1 July 2014 (BST)


 * The Bronze Spade is a shovel and the Iridum Drill is a Iridium Drill. Should I give you the missing textures too, or would it require the entire set to be re-uploaded?  Chocohead Nag • Additions  17:06, 1 July 2014 (BST)


 * Once they're uploaded the name can be changed.
 * EDIT: Done. :)
 * -- RealSketch •Staff •Talk •Contributions  17:30, 1 July 2014 (BST)


 * Can you just upload more textures to the sheet without needing to do the entire thing though? There are like 10 things I need/want to add.  Chocohead Nag • Additions  17:33, 1 July 2014 (BST)
 * I have to upload the entire picture again, but only the new tiles need to be added. It's very easy to update things, and a PITA to create new large sheets. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 18:07, 1 July 2014 (BST)
 * It is only a PITA when you are building the texture sheet by hand like some sort of neanderthal. A smart person would use a program to automate the assembling of tilesheets.  R e t e p 9 9 8 Bunny Overlord•talk•contribs 14:20, 2 July 2014 (BST)


 * So, hate to say it, but something goofed. This page has quite a few texture mishaps. --trajing Tell me if I did something wrong. Talk 15:47, 3 July 2014 (BST)


 * Most pages that use the IC2 tilesheet, which is a lot, will have to be hard-refreshed to work. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 19:05, 3 July 2014 (BST)

translations
You prepare pages for translations by:
 * surrounding text to translate with the translate tag.
 * If the page is a template or is expected to be transcluded onto other pages, wrap the translate tag with the noinclude tag.
 * adding to the name of templates and categories.
 * changing normal links to L.
 * making sure the page is complete and is not subject to change in the near future.
 * cleaning up any formatting errors.
 * append the langbar to the page.

If you guys have altered any of those rules, you guys did not update the translation guide and did not fix old translatable pages. --  Jin bo  bo  16:11, 24 June 2014 (BST)
 * Well, the translation guide is super barren and doesn't give any information, so I had to scour the MediaWiki wiki about the Translation Extension. I'm not sure why you are telling me this because I already know and have been doing it... --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs 19:34, 24 June 2014 (BST)
 * because
 * the translation guide is barren because translators only need to know how to translate links. The rest should be dealt with when the page is prepared for translation.
 * you are doing it wrong
 * suck it --  Jin bo  bo  23:50, 28 June 2014 (BST)
 * after all I invented most of the stuff you are using now lol. No one knows more about the wiki than me. --  Jin bo  bo  23:53, 28 June 2014 (BST)
 * Jinbobo, what do you mean by using for names of templates and categories?  R e t e p 9 9 8  Bunny Overlord•talk•contribs 12:07, 29 June 2014 (BST)
 * so becomes  and  becomes  --  Jin  bo  bo  21:44, 29 June 2014 (BST)

Advanced Machines Help
Like we said here: http://wiki.feed-the-beast.com/User_talk:RealSketch#Help_plz Can you rename the Advanced Machines pages to Advanced Machines (AtomicStryker) so I can add Immibis's version too :)  Chocohead Nag • Contributions 20:51, 26 June 2014 (BST)
 * Should the Advanced Machines page be a disambiguation page? --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 21:17, 26 June 2014 (BST)
 * Yes. That'd make sense.  Chocohead Nag • Additions  21:26, 26 June 2014 (BST)


 * Got the textures for both mods: Atomic - https://www.mediafire.com/?vkbvym9wl84bswp Immibis - https://www.mediafire.com/?vkbvym9wl84bswp  Chocohead  Nag • Additions  17:11, 27 June 2014 (BST)
 * The AtomicStryker one is done. The Immibis link is the same as the AS one, is this intended? I wouldn't think it should be identical... --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 00:14, 28 June 2014 (BST)


 * Nope, blame Mediafire's auto-copy button. http://www.mediafire.com/download/9wfv5s3hg743bty/Advanced+Machines+%28Immibis%29+Textures.zip That should work.  Chocohead Nag • Additions  01:03, 28 June 2014 (BST)
 * Done. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 20:42, 28 June 2014 (BST)

EIO Textures
EIO Textures Filled out what you requested over on Real's Talk page, here's the 7z. Trajing (talk) 22:02, 27 June 2014 (BST)


 * Great! Santa will get right on it! Thanks for maintaining EIO by the way! If you need any help just come to Santa, Padfoote or me...
 * -- Real Sketch •Purple Dragon •Staff •Talk •Contributions 22:42, 27 June 2014 (BST)


 * I forgot a couple of items, they'll be in the same download now that I added them. --trajing Tell me if I did something wrong. Talk 16:14, 28 June 2014 (BST)
 * Done. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 20:42, 28 June 2014 (BST)

review talk/user pages
Hey, do you think you could review all the user/talk pages? thanks.  R e t e p 9 9 8 Bunny Overlord•talk•contribs 02:37, 29 June 2014 (BST)
 * Why? As soon as a non-autochecked user edits them again they will go unreviewed. It'd be a huge waste of time. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 17:27, 29 June 2014 (BST)
 * there is no reviewing on user and talk pages, there are only patrolling. patrolling works per edit not per page as reviews are. --  Jin bo  bo  21:46, 29 June 2014 (BST)
 * amend: this means patrol/review all the edits/pages herp derp --  Jin bo  bo  04:20, 4 July 2014 (BST)

gt peeps
Maybe we should usher in some of the GT peeps as editors proper so we don't have to review all their edits.  R e t e p 9 9 8 Bunny Overlord•talk•contribs 02:48, 29 June 2014 (BST)
 * Maybe. I haven't looked at any of their edits except for the Immibis Advanced Machines page. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 17:28, 29 June 2014 (BST)

Agrarian Skies Documentation
Hello SatanNicholas, I would like to request permission to create a reference for Agrarian Skies on this Wiki.

Thanks, Best Regards -- Christophernjsp &middot; Talk &middot;Contribs 03:30, 2 July 2014 (BST)
 * Care to define "reference"? I asked this over on the forums, but an explanation as to what you want would be nice to have. -- Padfoote Staff • Talk • Contributions 03:57, 2 July 2014 (BST)
 * I don't understand why you are asking me for permission to document something on the FTB Launcher. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 20:38, 2 July 2014 (BST)

Template Help
Both the canning machine's template (Template:Cg/Canning Machine) and the ore washing plant's (Template:Cg/Ore Washing Plant) are outdated and therefore wrong and unusable. Can you fix it, or tell me what to do to get them fixed? :)  Chocohead Nag • Additions  19:47, 2 July 2014 (BST)
 * What's outdated? The slots? The image? --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 20:37, 2 July 2014 (BST)


 * The image (and therefore slots) for both. Especially the canning machine. The Ore Washing Plant is just missing a third output slot  Chocohead Nag • Additions  21:04, 2 July 2014 (BST)
 * If you get me an updated GUI image and tell me what each slot does, I'll update it. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 21:11, 2 July 2014 (BST)
 * GUI from in game right? Should I crop the rest of my inventory off, or will you do that?  Chocohead Nag • Additions  21:17, 2 July 2014 (BST)
 * Get it from the assets folder. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 21:19, 2 July 2014 (BST)


 * Here we go:


 * Ore Washing Plant: http://imgur.com/pXhQ1gh
 * Canning Machine - it is called Solid Canner in the game files and code, yet is called Canning Machine in game (just to confuse us :D): http://imgur.com/loL2Ef7
 * Bottling Plant - might get confused with Forestry's, but don't think Forestry's is uploaded: http://imgur.com/5vrsx5S
 * Canning Machine - very complicated, as the GUI arrows change, not just the rectangle selector: http://imgur.com/QbP81Ct
 * Here's a link to the pictures in game (which I happen to have lying around, so that you can see what they normally look like ;) http://imgur.com/a/D9i5J
 *  Chocohead Nag • Additions  21:37, 2 July 2014 (BST)
 * What do the slots for each machine do? Also, you listed Canning Machine twice? --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 02:29, 3 July 2014 (BST)


 * 2 Canning Machines because there are 2 in the game, since Thunderdark likes to confuse you. As for the other things:


 * The Ore Washing Plant just has 1 more output slot (next to the other two). That is the only difference.


 * For the first Canning Machine (called the Solid Canner in the assets folder, but Canning Machine in game):
 * The left slot is for items to be canned
 * The middle slot is for cells/fuel rods to have the items canned into
 * The right slot is for the outputted item
 * The slot underneath the energy icon is for batteries


 * For the Bottling Plant:
 * The top slot going into the tank is input for filled cells
 * The bottom slot going into the tank is the input for empty cells
 * The slot coming out of the tank is for the outputted full cells
 * The tank stores liquid that either taken either from cells or pumped in
 * The slot underneath the energy icon is for batteries


 * For the (other) Canning Machine - Look here http://imgur.com/a/D9i5J to see different uses
 * Fluid Enrich:
 * The top left slot is for items to be canned into (CF Backpack or CF Sprayer for example)
 * The middle slot is the item to be enriched
 * The left tank is the fluid to be enriched
 * The right slot is for items which are full (eg: A full CF Backpack, or CF Sprayer)
 * The right tank is for the enriched fluid (which didn't fit in an item or the item was full)
 * Fill Cell From Tank Mode:
 * The top left slot is for cells to be filled
 * The middle slot is unavailable
 * The left tank is the fluid to be filled into a cell
 * The right slot is for cells which are full
 * The right tank is unused
 * Drain From Cell Into Tank Mode:
 * The top left slot is for cells to be drained
 * The middle slot is unavailable
 * The left tank is unused
 * The right slot is for emptied items
 * The right tank is for the emptied fluid
 * Canning Mode:
 * The top left slot is for cells or fuel rods to be canned into
 * The middle slot is for items to be canned
 * The left tank is unused
 * The right slot is for canned items
 * The right tank is unused
 * The slot underneath the energy icon is for batteries

have fun updating the ore washing plant template --  Jin bo  bo  04:18, 4 July 2014 (BST)

Advanced Genetics 1.7.2 Tiles
Here you go! http://www.filedropper.com/showdownload.php/advancedgenetics172 Apologies for the Heal Crystal, it is animated and is quite hard to tile. -- RealSketch •Staff •Talk •Contributions  20:49, 2 July 2014 (BST)
 * Done. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 21:16, 2 July 2014 (BST)


 * Thanks! :D
 * -- RealSketch •Staff •Talk •Contributions  21:18, 2 July 2014 (BST)

Thanks for clarifying
Hi SS, Thanks for the message. I was trying to use the images I had uploaded as banners for a WIP Magical Crops mod page, but I didn't know what I was doing, so I messed that up, sorry. Just please delete anything I screwed up. In the future, I'll do images the way it's meant to be done, if/when I need them. My sandbox: yes, I realized that after I previewed the article's page. I'm going to remove the sandbox page for now, and leave it for testing of a different sort. I found the formatting I needed on one of the Wiki's guide pages, so that's fixed now. In short, I'm still "getting my sea legs" around here. Sorry for not following the guidelines so far, and I'll do my best to stay within them from now on. Thanks for bearing with me.


 * Template:Navbox portals has a bunch of links to various things that you may want to read. Also, use ~ at the end of your messages, as it adds a signature with a link to your talk page, and a timestamp. ~ adds a signature without a timestamp. You can modify your signature in the Preferences page, found at the top of the wiki. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 20:51, 5 July 2014 (BST)

Compact Solar Array Textures
I made the Compact Solars textures, can you make a tilesheet for me? :) http://www.mediafire.com/download/er3dcpz9077b8qz/Compact+Solars+Textures.zip  Chocohead Nag • Additions  23:45, 5 July 2014 (BST)
 * Awesome. I was actually gonna do that tonight :P --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 23:49, 5 July 2014 (BST)
 * It's 6 textures, so really didn't take long :D  Chocohead Nag • Additions  00:00, 6 July 2014 (BST)


 * Lucky, Choco, I just did exactly 350 tiles for Botania...
 * -- RealSketch •Staff •Talk •Contributions  13:27, 6 July 2014 (BST)


 * It's removing the backgrounds that bores me most.  Chocohead Nag • Additions  13:51, 6 July 2014 (BST)


 * I just take the whole screenshot, use the color remover tool to remove the gray background into a transparent background, and then just get the 32x32 tile! :D
 * -- RealSketch •Staff •Talk •Contributions  14:00, 6 July 2014 (BST)

clarification on reviewing and patrolling
Pages in the main, file and template namespace needs to be reviewed, consecutive unreviewed edits can be reviewed at once. Pages with no reviewed revisions will display the latest revision, pages with reviewed revisions will display the most latest reviewed revision for anon users. You can tweak this behavior per page with the "Stabilize page" link in the admin toolbox on the right, or per user in the user's preference.

All other pages are under the patrol system. Every single edit must be patrolled, to patrol click the diff link in the pages' history or on the recent changes page. The latest revision will always be displayed.

This is part of the wiki content moderation process, so patrol and review everything when prompted. Do not ask why. --  Jin bo  bo  00:55, 8 July 2014 (BST)
 * I'm not gonna patrol/review something if I can't verify for myself that its correct (right now that's mostly gt/ic2 stuff) --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 03:32, 8 July 2014 (BST)

Your Mods
Why are they both for 1.6.4? They look really cool and silly, but 1.7.10 is where it's at now :( Also well done for getting featured in Bevolj's latest modded news :)  Chocohead Nag • Additions  21:44, 9 July 2014 (BST)


 * Because kappa... :P
 * That's just Santa, also he probably wants to document everything before updating to the next stable MC version.
 * -- RealSketch •Staff •Talk •Contributions  21:46, 9 July 2014 (BST)


 * Because I'm still playing 1.6.4. I'm gonna update them once I get them working just how I want them. Then, once I get them to 1.7, I'm gonna keep backporting to 1.6.4 until the community has actually moved on.


 * If you want the actual reason, it's because I haven't updated my development environment in like 10 months, and I'm lazy. :P --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 22:36, 9 July 2014 (BST)

Author Template Question
Are you anticipating to make pages for each mod author? What do you do with mods like IC2 which has something silly like 12 people on the team?  Chocohead Nag • Additions  19:36, 10 July 2014 (BST)
 * Yeah the staff briefly discussed it a short while ago. For something like IC2, just do IndustrialCraft 2 Dev Team or whatever they are called. If people on it make other mods, note that and have them have their own page. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 19:38, 10 July 2014 (BST)


 * Only Greg makes another mod, or he's the only one who's keeping one up still. Why don't you link the names from the infobox too?  Chocohead Nag • Additions  19:40, 10 July 2014 (BST)
 * RichardG and ThunderDark have other mods too. I hate links in infoboxes, apart from modpacks and externals. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 19:42, 10 July 2014 (BST)


 * Ahhh yes, Misc Peripherals and the original MFFS. Wow, that was a long time ago :D  Chocohead Nag • Additions  19:45, 10 July 2014 (BST)


 * Apparently the "Hidden Section" isn't hidden... :P
 * -- RealSketch •Staff •Talk •Contributions  21:15, 10 July 2014 (BST)


 * Did you not realise? You've got to close your eyes when you look at it :D  Chocohead Nag • Additions  21:26, 10 July 2014 (BST)


 * Lol, I'm thinking of having my talk page as "Sketch" in my signature? Just like Santa did before...
 * -- RealSketch •Staff •Talk •Contributions  21:29, 10 July 2014 (BST)

IC2 Textures
Good news! Yes, the IC2 tilesheet textures need updating please, link to them all here: https://www.mediafire.com/?cxm6y0baa6mgu5e Just to clarify, this is all of them, not just the new ones ;) Thanks  Chocohead Nag • Additions  20:39, 11 July 2014 (BST)


 * As great as the textures are, fixing the tilesheet so a Copper Wire isn't a liquid would be nice :P  Chocohead Nag • Additions  15:30, 18 July 2014 (BST)


 * our wiki server is too fucked up to upload the new tile list, you'll just have to be patient. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 18:26, 18 July 2014 (BST)


 * OK, how'd it break this time?  Chocohead Nag • Additions  18:29, 18 July 2014 (BST)


 * Jinbobo...
 * -- RealSketch •Staff • Talk   • Contributions  18:32, 18 July 2014 (BST)


 * The same as all the other times. There's something wrong with the server, but we don't know what. -- Padfoote Staff • Talk • Contributions 18:39, 18 July 2014 (BST)

I just tried it again, but only adding the tile lists per 3 lines, and it still didn't work. The problem is the overwriting side of the tilesheet crap, and not the size of it by the looks of it. --  Satanic Santa Contribs •Administrator and Editor 19:58, 20 September 2014 (BST)

Botania - New update tiles.
Here, you go, only two, shouldn't take you long. :) http://www.filedropper.com/botania-gaia -- RealSketch •Staff •Talk •Contributions  09:33, 13 July 2014 (BST)

Also, the new flower. ;) http://www.filedropper.com/btnvinculotus -- RealSketch •Staff •Talk •Contributions  20:09, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * I'll get to those, along with Choco's IC2 tiles later hopefully maybe. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 20:13, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * I can't upload the tilesheets because Jin allegedly fucked up the server a while ago, and it hasn't been fixed since. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 23:49, 17 July 2014 (BST)


 * And he calls you an idiot...
 * -- RealSketch •Staff • Talk   • Contributions  15:34, 18 July 2014 (BST)

Forestry Tilesheet Question
Should I get together the new textures to update the Forestry tilesheet, or is it not worth it (or someone else already has)?  Chocohead Nag • Additions  18:00, 15 July 2014 (BST)
 * Please do it, and include bees and trees. If you want to do Magic Bees, and Binnie's Mods, that'd be awesome too ;) --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 18:06, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * Are the bees (and trees) all items (so can be taken out of the Forestry.jar), or do I have to get each individual one out of the game?  Chocohead Nag • Additions  18:18, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * They are all items, but I'm not sure how they are implemented. If Sengir was clever, he might've made a grey Bee and a grey Tree and just hardcoded the colors in. Check the assets first, and if I'm correct get them from in game, if I'm wrong, get them from the assets. Bee names should be  Bee, and trees should only include the species, not "Sapling" or "Tree". --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 18:21, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * From what I can see, it's just a grey texture, meaning I'll have to get every bee and print-screen them. Dang.  Chocohead Nag • Additions  18:26, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * If you use Photoshop, or another program that has brush functionality, you could just make a brush with the shape of it. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 18:27, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * I don't have to do the butterflies as well do I? Since there's no imprinter for them, so there's no way I can get all of them.  Chocohead Nag • Additions  20:19, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * I'm not gonna force you, but I'm not gonna stop you ;) --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 20:21, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * I don't even know how you breed them :D  Chocohead Nag • Additions  20:46, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * That would be for the WIP Forestry team to figure out. -- Padfoote Staff • Talk • Contributions 20:58, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * We have one of those now? I thought they all left/disappeared.  Chocohead Nag • Additions  21:12, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * Not yet, it's being worked on. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 21:17, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * I like bees... *Santa's Crickets*
 * -- RealSketch •Staff •Talk •Contributions  21:14, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * Once/If I make the Forestry textures, what order will you make them in (with IC2 and Botania's too)?  Chocohead Nag • Additions  21:21, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * -- RealSketch •Staff •Talk •Contributions  21:26, 15 July 2014 (BST)
 * -- RealSketch •Staff •Talk •Contributions  21:26, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * If he's making it third, then there's no rush for me. But if he wants them done first I'll have to work faster.  Chocohead Nag • Additions  21:35, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * Botania -> IC2 -> Forestry, unless User:Retep998 does 'em before me. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 21:38, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * Over 400 blocks and other items that must be screenshot'd, and cropped. AKA over 44 chest rows. Your Botania tiles not looking as bad now? Any tips to mass crop them into 32 x 32 squares?  Chocohead Nag • Additions  21:49, 15 July 2014 (BST)
 * For GregTech I wrote a program that would take a screenshot of blocks from NEI and extract out the blocks based on a mask.  R e t e p 9 9 8 Bunny Overlord•talk•contribs 22:02, 15 July 2014 (BST)


 * I done did done it: https://www.mediafire.com/?do8t6kabnnci84y Glad I wrote a Python script to break the textures up for me, would have taken days otherwise ;)  Chocohead Nag • Additions  22:13, 16 July 2014 (BST)

Oopsy(title mistake :P)
I didn't notice my title mistake till you pointed it out, thanks :) --SoraZodia 15:55, 20 July 2014 (HAST)

Mod Bugs
Are you aware that in the 1.7.10 version of Santa's Decor, all the recipes for the blocks are broken? Or that with Sparkly Pants, you repair the pants with gold in an anvil, not sugar? :P  Chocohead Nag • Additions  23:09, 29 July 2014 (BST)
 * NOPE. Alright, I'll get on that --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 01:55, 30 July 2014 (BST)


 * The update(s) fixed it :) Have the tilesheets on the wiki started working yet? IC2 is really going to confuse people :P  Chocohead Nag • Additions  23:50, 30 July 2014 (BST)
 * No, but I'll try again. If it doesn't work I'll just rollback to the previous version. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 17:10, 31 July 2014 (BST)


 * Cool, hope it works :)  Chocohead Nag • Additions  21:07, 31 July 2014 (BST)


 * "IC2 is really going to confuse people"...hmmm, yeah, 'cause all we want people to view is IC2... :P
 * -- RealSketch •Staff • Talk   • Contributions  21:27, 31 July 2014 (BST)


 * Industrial Diamonds had a texture of energy crystals. Copper was liquid construction foam. The Ore Dictionary lets IC2 get around ;)  Chocohead Nag • Additions  02:14, 4 August 2014 (BST)
 * Seems that reverting the tile sheet is as far as this can be fixed :(

Unstable
Unstable is for 1.7.10 now, so does it need a new modpack page of Unstable 1.7.10, or just an update to the current one?  Chocohead Nag • Additions  02:12, 4 August 2014 (BST)
 * No. I'll work on that now. Something came up so I couldn't finish what I was doing, but now I'm free again. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 06:27, 4 August 2014 (BST)


 * Lol you went on a massive article streak.
 * -- RealSketch •Staff • Talk   • Contributions  10:20, 4 August 2014 (BST)
 * Yup, ended up making the wiki briefly 504. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 10:44, 4 August 2014 (BST)

Tilesheet Renaming
Both Lapis Dust, Lapis Plate and Dense Lapis Plate on the IC2 tilesheet are named wrong, they should be Lapis Lazuli Dust, Lapis Lazuli Plate and Dense Lapis Lazuli Plate. Can you change them please?  Chocohead Nag • Additions  18:01, 11 August 2014 (BST)
 * Done. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 18:54, 11 August 2014 (BST)

IC2 Navbox Accepting Changes
Do you have to be a super special wiki staff member to accept changes to it, or am I just missing something?  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 17:16, 16 August 2014 (BST)


 * IIRC RealSketch had this problem as well. I'll look into it. Not sure what's goin on. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 17:33, 16 August 2014 (BST)


 * Hmmmm. Also, is there anyway to use Grid images for Navboxes? Since apparently the IC2 wiki has animated PNGs: here and here, which would work really well for the different coloured construction foam walls.  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 21:36, 16 August 2014 (BST)


 * No, we are not going back to the old Grid images system. However, I will see what we can do about getting animations for navboxes.  R e t e p 9 9 8 Bunny Overlord•talk•contribs 23:02, 16 August 2014 (BST)


 * Animations would be really cool :)  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 23:30, 16 August 2014 (BST)

Off Topic Template Question
Is this just really over complicated, or was grid based templates really this much more complicated than the ones on the FTB wiki? http://pastebin.com/vFYgqTiA  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 23:15, 18 August 2014 (BST)
 * Could you rephrase? I don't understand what you're asking. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 23:40, 18 August 2014 (BST)


 * Basically, the link is to the code for the IC2 wiki's crafting template for pretty much every machine in IC2 before experimental (it can apparently do any of the machines, depending on what you set). Looking at ones on the FTB wiki, they all seem a lot simpler. I was asking whether it was changing to the fancy tilesheet/ore dictionary way that the FTB wiki uses makes the templates simpler, or if it's just the IC2 one (which is still using the grid system) is very over complicated.  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 23:49, 18 August 2014 (BST)


 * I don't know. All I know is our wiki has pretty much the best template system out of all the modded MC wikis. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 23:53, 18 August 2014 (BST)


 * Well I sure agree with that  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 00:04, 19 August 2014 (BST)

Crafting Template Improvement
In Template:X8, I made it so adding |shapeless=True to the crafting template gives a note about the recipe being shapeless. I admit I don't have complete understanding how it all works (the "shapeless" for example I'm pretty sure can't be translated) but it works, and isn't that far off perfect (from what I could tell). What do you think?  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 01:55, 19 August 2014 (BST)
 * I had tried to do something like this, but it never worked out the way I wanted to. I'll put a notice on the SN about if we should add it. --  SatanicSanta Talk • Contribs •Admin 01:59, 19 August 2014 (BST)

Help Plz
I tried updating the, remembering to accept the change, yet it doesn't want to change :( Also the icon looks like the old GUI, even though it's a different file size and bigger (not sure if it's just visual or not). What am I doing wrong?  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 21:37, 28 August 2014 (BST)
 * Hard refresh? --  Satanic Santa Contribs •Administrator and Editor 21:44, 28 August 2014 (BST)


 * Tried that, still old GUI :S  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 21:47, 28 August 2014 (BST)


 * Here's what I see: http://puu.sh/bbOet/ea88df647e.png Is that what you are seeing as well? I don't use IC2, so this looks fine to me :P --  Satanic Santa Contribs •Administrator and Editor 21:51, 28 August 2014 (BST)


 * I don't see that, but that's what it should be. Guess it's just slow updating my end or something.  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 21:57, 28 August 2014 (BST)


 * Just hard refresh until it works, or something *shrug* --  Satanic Santa Contribs •Administrator and Editor 21:58, 28 August 2014 (BST)

Fluid Dilemma
Since IC2 adds 10 fluids, I'll need to upload the Liquid *Name*.png files, which is fine. The problem I have is, that Forestry already has a biomass:, so how could I distinguish that from IC2's biomass? Also, would liquid construction foam be called Liquid Construction_Foam.png?  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 14:11, 29 August 2014 (BST) Railcraft steam will also conflict with IC2's steam, so what ever happens to biomass would apply to steam too?


 * IIRC fluids should be done through tilesheets as well. At least, that's how Life Essence (Blood Magic) is done. -- Padfoote Staff • Talk • Contributions 15:03, 29 August 2014 (BST)


 * But for tanks they need to be separate. 1000 will give you a tank of 1 bucket of water, using water from [[File:Liquid_Water.png]].  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 15:23, 29 August 2014 (BST)


 * Uh, just like for page name clashes, add (Forestry) or (IndustrialCraft 2) to the name. This is all subject to change in the future of course, but for now this is the solution.  R e t e p 9 9 8 Bunny Overlord•talk•contribs 18:12, 29 August 2014 (BST)

Hello !
Everything's in the title of the post! Just to tell you and the rest of the team that I was officially back from holidays! BTW what was all the fuss around RealSketch (maybe I'm a bit too curious, but I really feel like I missed a lot of things during those 2 months)?

--LuximStaff • Translator • Talk • Contribs 02:07, 2 September 2014 (BST)


 * Welcome back! I'll edit your status on the update thread right away. For RealSketch, just go to User:SatanicSanta/RealSketch. --  Satanic Santa Contribs •Administrator and Editor 04:47, 2 September 2014 (BST)


 * Thanks! --LuximStaff • Translator • Talk • Contribs 18:16, 2 September 2014 (BST)

more changelogs
Please add changelogs for all the reika stuff. Thanks.  R e t e p 9 9 8 Bunny Overlord•talk•contribs 07:39, 6 October 2014 (BST)