User talk:Xbony2

Thanks!
Thank you for the welcome here, it means a lot. :)

Trying to get the hang of NavBox's- they seem really tough.

TheNathanG (talk) 15:47, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
 * - feel free to poke me if you need help ^_^ (and this reminds me to archive this talk page) -Xbony2 (talk) 16:15, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Block
Recently you blocked an IP address for advertising. Over here on the diep.io wiki we've had similar issues. Except we've had several bots like all the ones beginning with 23. are advertising bots from America. Do you think they are related?  LordofEditing =( Talk )= ''' 00:28, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * - I'm not really an expert on IP addresses, but yeah, there probably is a connection. I wouldn't recommend distrusting any IPs on the clause that they start with 23, though. -Xbony2 (talk) 01:46, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, that's hard to say. Considering that every single one of them comes from America and vandalises (not saying where) with random travel spam. Just sayin', ya know.  LordofEditing =( Talk )= ''' 01:56, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * - well, I'd hate to accidentally ban one unlucky guy who was legit because their IP ended with a 23. If I had to guess it's all because it's from one area. -Xbony2 (talk) 02:14, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * There'ye all coming from one area, and they create rather interesting pages. But it is frustrating because they think our wiki is a place to put everday magazine gossip.  LordofEditing =( Talk )= ''' 02:25, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * You should use AbuseFilter instead of restricting anons from editing based on arbitrary digits in their IP addresses. --  Satanic Santa 🎅F T B Wiki Admin 06:24, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It's mostly just bots, so being frustrated at them is a bit silly. Also what Santa said if that is possible. -Xbony2 (talk) 12:07, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

GT5 stuff
Since you also work on GT5 now, I would like to know your opinion on the structure of the navbox. I am still disambiguating stuff, so I haven't written a single article on my workspace yet, and you seem to be far ahead already :D Both existing navboxes on the wikis don't cover the variety of stuff GT5 adds. Are you going to change your own, and if so, how? P.S. I am not stealing ideas or whatever, just want to discuss some questions with one of a few people who can understand. P.P.S. Before you ask, I am not moving to this wiki and not going to compete with you in terms of GT5 documentation or anything else. --Antillar (talk) 14:42, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * - On the unofficial wiki I assume? Anyway, I don't really work on GT5, although I'm currently doing maintenance stuff related to it (separating GregTech 5 and GregTech 6). is the official guy to talk to about GregTech, although he's been focusing on GT6 (although quite frankly he has not been doing a very good job at that). Anyway, this wiki has been the official wiki and most complete wiki for GregTech for a long time, so we're a lot more than ahead :P As for changes for here, feel free to point out anything that's missing, there's nothing immediately planned by me. I think I'll go back to GregTech 5 to finish it up some day, as I have been doing with GregTech 4 at random intervals, usually on vacation where my laptop cannot run modern mods. But not any time soon, I'm way too busy with 1.10/1.11 mods that have a shitton of demand. Don't feel bad for "stealing ideas", there's nothing wrong with it (cough cough). And on to your navbox... to me, it seems like a mess. Having one page for each voltage of machine seems simply redundant, and it certainly does not make the navbox any more readable or easy to navigate. Same with wires. Also, maybe a bit more of a pet peeve, using "Multi-block" instead of "Multiblock" is eh. Btw, how do you pronounce your name? It has the look of a Spanish verb and I keep pronouncing it as such, although I imagine it is not Spanish at all. -Xbony2 (talk) 15:39, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * So, to start with. I am the one from unofficial FTB Wiki, and probably the only one still active there (the need of countless poking of the owner for textures does not make him active).
 * The problem I have encountered is that there was not only lack of disambiguation between GT4 and GT5 and GT6, but also lack of disambiguation between most of metals in many forms (Copper Ingot used to be one page, now 14), and I am still in this stuff, not simply writing articles, the thing I consider to be the easiest and not worthy even discussing. So that's why I am discussing the stuff with you and not with.
 * To my navbox. The current version is for me and only for me. That is why I was so surprised when you found one typo in over 90k symbols. The thing about it is that it is over 2MB of include size now, and will possibly be more than 4MB. Obviously, I am not letting it in every article. What I am about to do is to make a much smaller navbox (15-20k instead of over100k) with links to basic forms of all stuff from GT5, and this would be the one I want to discuss? not the big one. And I will use articles with (or whatever it is called here) linking to other articles of this type. I follow a quite strange yet simple rule: one object - one article. This allows to move most of the technical info in infoboxes (well you know how it is done on my wiki, don't you). And the big navbox only serves for me so that I am sure I have written all articles in a certain category.
 * To your navbox. Firstly, BloodAsp has made a machines for voltages after IV some time ago. So, LuV, ZPM, UV and MAX also have machines now. So does ULV for some machines. Your 5-template for LV, MV, HV, EV and IV simply won't fit. What is worse is the custom names he has given to the half of the top-tier machines. User-search has to include those via redirects or anything else. Same goes to the components the machines are made of. Another point is the ore processing system and chemical part of the mod which is completely cut out from the navbox on this wiki. There are over 150 ores in GT which generate by default, and each should be processed in unique way, which includes up to 8 stages and produces different amount of stuff in the end (and BloodAsp is changing this like every update). IMHO this is smth the reader should know. The last thing I feel the Wiki should tell the reader is how to do stuff, not just what the certain thing is. GT is one of the mods where the pages about a group of items in common are very useful, as for the unexperienced reader it may seem like stuff is enclosed in infinite loop where thing A is required for thing B and in order to make thing A, the player already needs B. This is what I would also add to the documentation and to navbox itself. Anyway it is always up to you and whoever else is working on this mod here.
 * Finally, about my nickname. I have stolen it from German company "Schleich" which sells high quality plastic toys (was a name of black dragon they made in 2008). So I suppose that it has to sound close to the written form. Myself I make the emphasis on the last syllable, don't know if this was meant to be so though. Just realized I've totally messed wiki formatting so changing all BRs to ::, hope you don't mind. --Antillar (talk) 16:42, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * - Yes, I recognize you of course. Here, I too am the most active editor. I bug the other editors about their inactivity, but in reality we're all pretty good around here :)
 * I found your mistake by a rather simple method- if you click on preview, there's a warning at the top of the page if there is more than value for a specific parameter (in this case, list9). I was mostly just testing the speed of the template out of curiosity. Here we have About which is kind of like . I don't really understand the one object one article rule on the unofficial wiki- it breaks apart many things almost pointlessly. I get that it's needed for some of the technical stuff you have there, but the database-like format really isn't very likable. And for a mod like GregTech, there are many pages which simply make more sense together, which is why here we have material pages and material form pages, rather than having one page for each item. If we had one article for each component like a Bronze Plate, we'd probably have 25k articles by now (no joke), which is just over the top. Anyway...
 * Thanks for pointing all those out :) putting redirects for all of the machines has actually been on the invisible TODO list for a long time. As for materials, I also do feel like they should be listed on the GT navbox, and not just Navbox Materials. Getting Started (GregTech) is a thing, but it's rather primitive and basic. It would be great if we could find someone to make it better (only if time was infinite, am I right?).
 * Btw, feel free to hang on if you're an IRC person (everyone around here is). We won't pinch you too much ;) -Xbony2 (talk) 23:34, 14 January 2017 (UTC)