User talk:Xbony2

Stuff to mark
Can you mark Template:Cleanup and Template:Bee for translation please? Also yell at Santa for being useless and incompetent for doing both wrong.  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 11:56, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Translated pages
Can your bot handle editing pages that are already marked for translation? I just wrote some Ruby code using the mediawiki_api and still get the same error that my old code did, the hookaborted crap. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 23:48, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Huh that's really weird. It worked on my Module:Mods/list test (on my sandbox), but not with the mods/minor mods templates. I guess it's not really *that* important since we'll be doing some sort of autoupdate thing in the future. But it's still weird. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 00:06, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It just edits the pages and adds some of the markup, if that's what you mean. -Xbony2 (talk) 00:14, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * No. I mean editing pages that have already been marked. Like, not the command that adds the markup :P --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 01:51, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Probably, I'm not sure what you mean :P -Xbony2 (talk) 12:11, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

From Arcuesfanatic
I don't know where the proper place to talk to you is, so hopefully you see this. I am not good with Wiki templates, but I can at least fill out information, particularly on Aura Cascade where there is little documentation outside of the in-game Encyclopedia Aura, and even that can be a little misleading and confusing. I'll do what I can to bring accurate information about the mod, but I suck at proper formatting, so if you could help me with that, that would be great. Thanks.


 * @ Be sure to come onto the and ask for any help you need. There is usually someone there that will be willing to help you understand any formatting issues or queries you may have! And be sure to sign your posts with ~ and ask questions by posting messages on talk pages! :) --  Satanic  Santa F T B Wiki Admin 00:04, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * what Santa said :p don't avoid adding information because you're new to the wiki and such, I'll work on format stuff later. -Xbony2 (talk) 01:42, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Noincludes
In your recent edit to Navbox Santa's Toys, you added a bunch of noincludes. Why? Unless shit wasn't reloading properly on my end (which is possible), it didn't really seem to change anything. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 20:52, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * : it needs it. You could (note the past tense) see " Santa's Toys " on the Santa's Toys/es-ni/Santa's Toys/tl, rather then "Santa's Toys", although it looks all fine on the actual template page. -Xbony2 (talk) 20:57, 9 August 2015 (UTC)


 * All templates require translation tags to be surrounded in noincludes so that the translations are taken from the template rather than the tags also being interpreted on the page a template is added to.  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 21:29, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Pretty much what Choco said. Modules (navbox or otherwise) are a nice way to avoid these though. -Xbony2 (talk) 22:14, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, so basically it's an issue on the translated version of the page, not the source page. Gotcha. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 22:56, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

RC Cat
Any chance you can use for messing with categories? Lotta RC spam as-is. - PaladinAHOne Staff (talk) 03:27, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thing is, the category overhaul requires a lot of sanity checking and basically everything varies depending on the page and its contents. It probably wouldn't work with a bot, unfortunately. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 05:38, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * If you do it by hand, but while logged in to a bot account, then you can both avoid RC spam and still be able to treat pages on a case by case basis. 🐇 R e t e p 9 9 8 🐇🐰 Bunny Overlord 🐰 08:39, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd like to make a good API for wiki manipulation and have ESAEBSAD use it, since there's no good ruby API for mediawiki such crap. Btw Paladin, thanks for Cg/Crucible. -Xbony2 (talk) 12:03, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * What does this have to do with anything? Also Retep's idea is very good. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 18:41, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Using abbreviations in articles
Please make sure that you are following the abbreviation guidelines described in the Manual of Style. Your recent article, Diesel Generator (Immersive Engineering), does not follow this style. Thanks. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 20:59, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * With what, RF? (this isn't a recent article btw, it was made more then a month ago) -Xbony2 (talk) 12:44, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * yes with rf --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 16:42, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * /me farts -Xbony2 (talk) 21:35, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Recent rollbacks
How did that edit to Module:Mod List prevent us from using L? I don't see the relation there... --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 20:45, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * L adds the slash automatically, and is basically made to use it. -Xbony2 (talk) 21:00, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Totally not here just for the bees. Maybe.
Welcomed a couple editors to the wiki (none of them ever stayed, of course). -XBony2

Thanks for welcoming me ;u;

So, are there any unwritten guidelines/rules or whatnot not in the Manual of Style? I've been an editor on some other wikis but the FTB one is painfully new. Perhaps an esoteric song of praise to admins in order to curry favour?

~ AA


 * signing posts with ~ is one ;) Also talk a look at the Article Creation Guideline. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 15:46, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Can we rename that to Article Creation Guidelines? That's been bugging me for months. - PaladinAHOne Staff (talk) 15:59, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree, although that rename is a topic for the staff noticeboard, not here. —   NickTheRed37 t/c • F T B &ensp;Wiki Translator 17:57, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Antimonyantinomy- there's some stuff related to categories (semi-refactor going to currently), but don't worry about that. -Xbony2 (talk) 21:43, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * (To elaborate I don't think the current category changes will effect any bee-related stuff) -Xbony2 (talk) 22:33, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * If anything, the changes that will be made will be updated automatically by my bot, so the user really does not need to worry at all. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 07:33, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

XYCraft Tilesheet
Since apparently XYCraft did add an Aluminium Can, just spelt it wrongly and removed it in the later releases, it's missing from the tilesheet right now. Can you add it on please? :)  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 20:03, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * *Aluminum :P (gotcha) -Xbony2 (talk) 20:42, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * (if it looks like the texture's broken, it's just Curse. Wait a day before doing anything) -Xbony2 (talk) 20:48, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * It showed up fine, thanks :)  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 21:07, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * PS are you going to do the rest of the tilesheet on Retep's backlog?
 * some of it, but I'm too damn lazy to do all of it. -Xbony2 (talk) 22:50, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

o bby
10/10, -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 13:31, 5 September 2015 (UTC)


 * and now it's more realistic -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki and Spammer of Recent Changes (talk) 13:27, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

-Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki, Master of Brazilian Portuguese Minecraft Wiki, Master of Habbo Wiki, Translation Administrator of Feed The Beast Wiki, Administrator of Habbo Wiki, Guy with long signature, this is long just to annoy people like you (talk) 22:25, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Stop
I am the Master of the Russian Minepedia. Stop editing too much, too quickly and too densely. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. —   NickTheRed37 t/c • F T B &ensp;Wiki Translator 17:40, 7 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Densely? Most of the edits would only justify being run as a bot, they're small, simple and very annoying.  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 18:51, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I am agreeing with both of these people. You seriously need to use a bot. Honestly you could just temp login to your bot account and do shit if you dont want to code it. Your rc spam is getting high key ridiculous, and makes checking new edits for quality annoying --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 00:12, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm done with the translated-categorizational shit. Although it might of been better to use ESAEBSAD for it, it's out of the way now. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki and Spammer of Recent Changes (talk) 00:20, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * (and gratz to nick for his mega-achievement) -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki and Spammer of Recent Changes (talk) 00:21, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm gonna agree with Santa here. If you're gonna do hundreds of the same small edit, USE YOUR DAMN BOT ACCOUNT. 🐇 R e t e p 9 9 8 🐇🐰 Bunny Overlord 🐰 03:09, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure this also isn't the first time we've talked to you about this. - PaladinAHOne Staff (talk) 03:58, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * SatanicSanta, to make an edit marked as bot’s, setting a special query parameter is needed. That parameter isn’t auto-specified by the bot usergroup. —   NickTheRed37 t/c • F T B &ensp;Wiki Translator 16:38, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * That is only the case when you are using the edit api. When doing web edits it automatically sets the bot param as true. Also use U instead of for user pinging, as it actually causes a notification. --  Satanic  Santa F T B Wiki Admin 17:41, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh really? And, actually any linking to a user’s page casts a notification, as seen by experience of being mentioned like that. —   NickTheRed37 t/c • F T B &ensp;Wiki Translator 17:33, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Really? I didn't get notified about your mention via --  Satanic  Santa F T B Wiki Admin 19:27, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I personally don't look at notifications, but I always keep a hawk-eye on RecentChanges. My notification count is over 99 :P -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki and Spammer of Recent Changes (talk) 19:37, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * And now that I've clicked it, it's back to zero. Welp. I'm pretty sure I get an email if someone mentions me though. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki and Spammer of Recent Changes (talk) 19:39, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

""Directors", "Bureaucrats", "Administrators". Btw Nick, I can confirm mentioning via does work, as debated on my user talk page on the FTB Wiki."

- Xbony2 -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 20:56, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Translating
Stop translating to languages you don't know. It just makes the translators jobs harder because we have to go back and fix them. Thanks. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 17:47, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * As discussed on IRC, the proper translation of "Smelting" is "Fundición" rather then "Fundiendo", as that is how the Spanish Minecraft Wiki describes it. I don't pull words out of my butt. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 11:03, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Believe or believe not, but everyone makes errors. And we (Russian Minepedians) are happy with the fact that we don’t accept the ever-changing and sometimes wrongful Crowdin translation, which is edited by sometimes illiterate masses. —   NickTheRed37  t/c • F T B &ensp;Wiki Translator 15:38, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I just looked into it, as I had never heard the word fundición before this, since my family arent metal workers. Fundición is the noun "smelting", while fundiendo is the present progressive (-ing) form of the word fundir, which means "to smelt". So both are proper translations of the word, they just have different uses. Fundicion is correct I think though. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 18:10, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Dude
For real, knock it off. Use your bot. http://puu.sh/kksDH/f5bd01e2b2.png How many times do we need to talk about this? --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 18:43, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I do not consider that long enough for it to be necessary. Other time sure. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 21:42, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * The recent changes only logs 50 changes when you first go on it, no one cares about 50 changes to add tilesheets to a category.  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 22:16, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
 * My RecentChanges is set to 250 per default. Having it at 50 is silly. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 22:32, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The problem is you never consider your disruptive mass-editing to be "big enough" for a bot. Pretty much every time you do it, at least one person complains. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 23:33, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * . Just look at it. (This was taken at a decreased scale) —   NickTheRed37 t/c • F T B &ensp;Wiki Translator 15:37, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Names in Tagalog
Always put "si" before names in Tagalog/Filipino. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 17:55, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * sí -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 21:34, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

STOP
Stop trying to be the only tyrant editor of the FTB Wiki! Make others edit too! —   NickTheRed37 t/c • F T B &ensp;Wiki Translator 15:28, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok- translate About to Russian. I'm making you (like 5 pages required it). -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 21:22, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * if you mean he edits too much, I disagree. Considering many of our editors are somewhat inactive, I appreciate his efforts. If you mean something else, I'm lost. <3 u xboner --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 01:38, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
 * -insert complaining that practically no one else does anything anymore here- -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 11:30, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, I totally pretend to do things! 🐇 R e t e p 9 9 8 🐇🐰 Bunny Overlord 🐰 17:49, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
 * lately I've been more interested in creating tools for the more active editors to use. Speaking of which I should refactor and finish ModUpdater... --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 18:01, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Created page with...
Please start putting some sort of filler summary when you create pages. What you currently do makes the recent changes log really annoying to read. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 19:20, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe if a better default could be set, that would be great. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 21:28, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if that's possible. It's really not hard to type "New page" or even "New" as a summary. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 21:44, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
 * It's in a pain in the ass for me tho :/ -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 21:53, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
 * >Writes an entire article. >Can't write one tiny sentence summary. 🐇 R e t e p 9 9 8 🐇🐰 Bunny Overlord 🐰 22:57, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
 * So I'm fucking lazy, big deal. I wonder if there is some sort of mediawiki setting for this though. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 23:05, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I briefly used my magic Google abilities and found nothing. Also, tab -> "new" -> Save page. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 02:54, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

IC2 Classic Tilesheet
Can you make a tilesheet for it (link) please? will be ever so happy ;)  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 01:38, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * done -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 11:49, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Aether Tilesheet
LINK Can you tilesheetify please?  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 21:21, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Make an abbreviation first mate. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 21:35, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Done.  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 23:08, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * And done. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 23:48, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Traincraft Tilesheet
TRNC please.  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 14:05, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. Note characters "[" and "]" are converted to "(" and ")" for... reasons involving technical difficulties. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 14:27, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * How could anything have more annoying naming restrictions than Windows? :P  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 14:29, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I use OS X for everything <3 but trying to submit a square bracket into Special:CreateTilesheet will cause it to process, lead to a blank white screen, and result in nothing. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 14:41, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * buup -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 14:57, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Apparently the track Traincraft adds using the Railcraft API count as coming from Railcraft, can you add them to the rest of them please?  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 15:03, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * And done. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 15:16, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Crusher Tilesheet
CRU please.  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 16:08, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * You should name the folder as the abbreviation rather than "Mod Name Tilesheets" or whatever. The code looks for the abbreviation rather than a mod name. Also done. It is better to ask Peter or I to do it since Xbony uses code that fails to compress the images enough, or something like that. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 17:19, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I did, and found xbony had this more useful feature of actually doing them.  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 17:58, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The difference is pretty much insignificant, but I could probably fix my program if it is so desired. As Santa stated, it would be useful to file the folder named the abbreviation. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 20:00, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * ok well now that I have rust and all the deps on my computer I'll actually do them too. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 22:37, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Patrolling
Please double-check revisions for accuracy, rather than assuming so, before you patrol them. Thanks. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 03:28, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Good catch. I did check it actually, but I fucked it up apparently. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 11:59, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

“edited page”
The summary “edited page” just states an obvious thing, but doesn’t describe how exactly the page was edited; effectively, it is nearly the same as an empty summary. I don’t like senseless edit summaries like that, and I think some others also don’t. —  Agent NickTheRed37  ( Kirk to   Enterprise ) — Russian Translator and Minepedian 16:20, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I like it a lot more than "New Page, Content: *spam of the first half of the page*..." which was what happened before.  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 16:56, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * me too. Though xbony may consider changing his script to only use it on new page creation. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 17:03, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The original script WAS suppose to only apply to new pages, which was the main compliant about it. However, I could not figure out how to make it apply to only new pages, so it applies for all my edits. Feel free to edit User:Xbony2/common/autosummary.js if you know of a solution for that (although use a different script for testing please). -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 20:31, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * "edited page" is definitely annoying tho. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 20:45, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * This should/might do what we want.  Chocohead Nag • Edits • Staff 20:51, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Ruby returning
So, I ran some benchmarks:

Here are the results: user    system      total        real implicit 11.080000  0.010000  11.090000 ( 11.095749) explicit 10.960000  0.010000  10.970000 ( 10.976805) user    system      total        real implicit 10.970000  0.040000  11.010000 ( 11.046876) explicit 10.760000  0.010000  10.770000 ( 10.788030) user    system      total        real implicit 11.580000  0.060000  11.640000 ( 11.736174) explicit 12.330000  0.170000  12.500000 ( 12.961975) user    system      total        real implicit 12.100000  0.140000  12.240000 ( 12.568561) explicit 11.830000  0.100000  11.930000 ( 12.108049) user    system      total        real implicit 11.990000  0.110000  12.100000 ( 12.306040) explicit 11.850000  0.110000  11.960000 ( 12.129834)

--  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 07:04, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Interesting. However, it is not a significant difference, and it still is poor convention. -Xbony2, TriMaster (talk) 12:35, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * yeah, I've also seen tests that show the opposite. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 17:39, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * That's a little weird, I may have to test it myself. -Xbony2, TriMaster (talk) 22:06, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

xbony2s-Mac-Pro:~ xbony2$ ruby /Users/xbony2/Documents/test.rb       user     system      total        real implicit 11.620000  0.020000  11.640000 ( 11.651254) explicit 11.540000  0.010000  11.550000 ( 11.556725) xbony2s-Mac-Pro:~ xbony2$ ruby /Users/xbony2/Documents/test.rb       user     system      total        real implicit 11.620000  0.000000  11.620000 ( 11.616850) explicit 11.920000  0.040000  11.960000 ( 11.979942) xbony2s-Mac-Pro:~ xbony2$ ruby /Users/xbony2/Documents/test.rb       user     system      total        real implicit 12.000000  0.060000  12.060000 ( 12.061432) explicit 11.980000  0.040000  12.020000 ( 12.031309) xbony2s-Mac-Pro:~ xbony2$ ruby /Users/xbony2/Documents/test.rb       user     system      total        real implicit 12.150000  0.060000  12.210000 ( 12.206211) explicit 12.200000  0.050000  12.250000 ( 12.254078) So yeah -Xbony2, TriMaster (talk) 22:18, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I think these results vary way too much, are so inconsistent, and have such minuscule difference that it really doesn't matter which one you do. It's just a styling thing. I'll personally be using implicit :)