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The Problem
There are two types of links at the moment;

Which links to wiki.feed-the-beast.com/Link*/language* - if you're on a language page, it links to the link, but in said language -, and shows up like.

Overwrite Which links to wiki.feed-the-beast.com/Link, and shows up like Overwrite.

Why is this a problem?
Old pages still use the (inferior) system. People who translate such pages, forget to add */language* at the end of the links, and it just makes a giant mess out of translated pages. Any page with links is translated faster (because links won't need edits other than maybe overwrites).

Solution
Bot-edit all pages with old links.

Discussion

 * What are you suggesting? L on every page? That would be a no. And the notes part, having separate categories for translated articles is intended, but currently using L to create such links is currently broken, I'll have to fix it later. --  Jin bo  bo  = Wiki Team Lead =  04:04, 10 August 2013 (BST)
 * The categories in are working fine for me, I believe there's no problems in changing all links, really. --Alistaire (talk) 15:39, 10 August 2013 (BST)
 * Training 5 people is easier than training 50 people. If we changed all links to L, normal editors will start forgetting to add them and will become more of a pain in the ass. If you see a translator not converting links, post a warning linking to the translating guide asking them to do so. --  Jin bo  bo  = Wiki Team Lead =  16:45, 10 August 2013 (BST)

Final stage of the crafting grid overhaul project
Before I begin recreating crafting grids and populating the ore dict, please decide whether you want to use the new system.

Benefits of the new system

 * Ore dictionary
 * Simpler invocation of tanks.
 * Simplified crafting grid template creation.
 * Infinite animation frames.
 * Variables in tooltips.
 * Full implementation of grid functionality.
 * Automatically resolve file names and links of items with mod variants in grids.

Downsides of the new system

 * Slightly more typing when implementing crafting grids in articles.
 * Cannot animate the ore dictionary and normal animations at the same time.

Comparisons
Note that some names of templates are not final and may change in the future.

Grids
Grids are much the same except that animation using a list is no longer supported, Instead you use a wrapper to active the animation. The grid template now automatically resolves of mod counterparts of items. Observe where the grid links to and what the tooltip displays. Variables are now also supported inside grids and tanks. All other old parameters are still supported.

Tanks
Before you have to type out a string of complicated code that I wouldn't even try to type to create a tank, now you only have to type out the type of liquid, the amount of liquid used, and the maximum amount of liquid. Also, in the old template, due to the way the it is implemented, it was impossible to generate a tooltip for tanks, now, a tooltip is generated automatically and does support variables like grids do. Another perk is to not need to capitalize the first letter of the liquid name.

Ore dictionary
An ore dictionary has now been implemented. To call it you use: produces:

Note that you call the ore dictionary directly with the normal grid template, set no-oredict to 1 if you do not want to use the ore dictionary: produces:

You also can call the grid display logic to achieve the same effect, the Template:Gc offers an shortcut to Template:Grid/Cell. produces:

You can also call the ore dict by supplying the ore dictionary with a tag name. A wrapper is created to achieve this effect: produces:

Crafting Grids
Creating crafting grids is now easier than ever. Compare the code of Template:Grid/Carpenter with Template talk:Cg.

Animation and slides
Animation and slide wrappers are created and can be used in lots of situations. They both cycle through divs and spans. A B  C  D  produces: A B  C  D   A  B  C  D  produces: A B  C  D

Implementation of crafting grids in articles
Crafting grids previously automatically cycle through items, now it does not, instead the user would have to click on buttons to flip through pages. Some stuff you normally will have to type to create tanks can be omitted here since it is included in the crafting grid template.

Polls
With all that said, please cast your vote below, voting ends in 1 week. Please make sure that you have read what have changed above before casting your vote.

Voting Eligibility
Anyone can cast a vote.

Instructions
Find the appropriate section for your vote, read the instructions on the first and second line, then click on the [edit] link beside the section titles. There are four types of votes:
 * Support
 * Oppose
 * Conditional support
 * Neutral

Support

 * Cast a vote here if you think that this system should replace the old system. If you want this system to be implemented with conditions, cast your vote in the "Conditional support" section below.
 * Please put:  on the bottom of this section, where  is your comment. Click the [edit] link on the right of the section title to edit this section.
 * I created these flippin' templates, if no one votes, the new system shall take over. Bwahahahahaha. -- Jinbobo SysOp ·&#32;BotOp ·&#32;talk ·&#32;contribs 17:58, 3 August 2013 (BST)
 * It seems like a very nice way to make the system more flexible, and more consistent between other templates. It is more complex, I agree, and could look a bit "scary" for some people, but should be better overall, I think. -- Throne3d (talk) 23:17, 3 August 2013 (BST)
 * I like it. Looks like it would make things easier on the coders. :) -- Masbk2 (talk) 10:44, 4 August 2013 (BST)
 * Vote cast for . --  Jin bo  bo  Wiki Team Lead 13:14, 4 August 2013 (BST)
 * Looks good and seems to work without problems. The extra work is mostly taking the time to adapt to the new methods. -- MilConDoin (talk) 15:08, 4 August 2013 (BST)
 * At last, the system I wanted is finally here. Yay! -- Retep998 (talk) 15:17, 5 August 2013 (BST)
 * I like it. The slide version would make adding different recipes to single pages very reader friendly. -- Quantumpugilist (talk) 07:59, 6 August 2013 (BST)
 * Presumably we can set up a bot to replace all existing crafting tables? It's going to be a hell of a replacement job otherwise -- AgentTadpole Staff &middot; talk &middot; contribs 10:34, 6 August 2013 (BST)
 * I'm all for the new system though I also support AgentTadpole's idea of trying to bot the changes for the existing pages. -- Beleriond (talk)
 * It is SO amazing and easy to use. |Figgycity |(Talk) 16:10, Thursday 8 August (GMT)

Oppose

 * Cast a vote here if you think that this system should not replace the old system.
 * Please put:  on the bottom of this section, where  is your reason. Click the [edit] link on the right of the section title to edit this section.

Conditional support

 * Cast a vote here if you think that this system should only replace the old system under certain circumstances.
 * Please put:  on the bottom of this section, where  is your condition. Click the [edit] link on the right of the section title to edit this section.

Neutral

 * Cast a vote here if you think that either system works.
 * Please put:  on the bottom of this section, where  is your comment. Click the [edit] link on the right of the section title to edit this section.
 * Vote cast for --  Jin  bo  bo  Wiki Team Lead 11:38, 4 August 2013 (BST)