Feed The Beast Wiki:Centralized discussion/Archive

Russian translation being moved to Minecraft Wiki?
I once requested to add an interwiki prefix on Russian Minecraft Wiki that leads to this wiki. It was met with an oppose by GreenStone, stating:

This means that the Russian translation project might be merged with Russian Minecraft Wiki.

We need a discussion on whether we should keep the translation project or merge it with that wiki.

I’m Nick   the   Red37, a ru.Minepedia user  16:29, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd prefer if we continued to simply allow pages on this wiki to be translated into any language. If Russian translators want to translate pages here, they are free to do so. If they would rather write Russian articles on the Russian Minecraft wiki, they are free to do so. Due to our setup of templates and extensions, this wiki is specifically designed to handle the massive complexity added by mods, so why people wouldn't want to take advantage of it is beyond me. 🐇 R e t e p 9 9 8 🐇🐰 Bunny Overlord 🐰 16:55, 24 January 2015 (UTC)


 * This strikes me as a rather hostile and uncooperative attitude. If the Russian Minecraft wiki wants to maintain their own mod pages, that's fine by me, but I don't think they have any right to say that FTB shouldn't be allowed to have a Russian translation. -- Orthotopetalk (mcw admin) 19:39, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

"Script errors" all over wiki for non-logged in users
I was originally going to report this as a bug, but then I noticed that the top box says the following:


 * Please make sure you are logged in when viewing the wiki otherwise you will see script errors everywhere.

Is this intentional? If not, when is a fix expected for this issue? I have noticed a lot of pages are broken for anonymous users because of this (as sampled from Special:RandomPage):


 * Wrench (BuildCraft) http://i.imgur.com/fBw8aCt.png
 * Brew of Bats http://i.imgur.com/IMxr8J2.png
 * Sword of the Zephyr (Thaumcraft 3) http://i.imgur.com/hAJ6Ljg.png

-- Polaris iv (talk) 13:20, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


 * This is due to an issue with the configuration of the FlaggedRevs extension. We are working with Curse to get this issue fixed as soon as possible. 🐇 R e t e p 9 9 8 🐇🐰 Bunny Overlord 🐰 23:25, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


 * This should be handled now. PaladinAHOne  Staff (talk) 22:43, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

"FTBwiki.org?"
should we be using ftbwiki.org? it's much more complete
 * Anyone is free to use either wiki. Whereas http://ftbwiki.org is a more complete one, this wiki is the official one: it was founded by FTB team as http://wiki.feed-the-beast.com and since then merged with Gamepedia. &mdash;  NickTheRed37 t/c • F T B &ensp;Wiki Translator 06:29, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Either wiki is usable. This one was formed by FTB staff members and originally written primarily by either FTB-appointed or mod author-appointed staff members. ftbwiki.org was originally created by the fanbase / playerbase and is still written and operated by them. Until about 8 months ago, this wiki was also hosted on an FTB server, until the decision was made to transfer to Gamepedia servers which, while less under our control, were significantly more stable. (It was also this move that prompted me to join the team, as server stability was the barrier between me and continuing the job I started two years ago with the now defunct GregTech Community Wiki.)
 * Personally, I like a few of the aesthetics of the unofficial wiki better (dark theme in stead of light theme), but I'm pretty sure under-the-hood we have better templates to work with. (Also this loads smoother.) - PaladinAHOne Staff (talk) 08:16, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Nay on aesthetics, I don't want to squint to read. Although, is it possible for this wiki to have multiple skins? -Xbony2 (talk) 11:45, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It is possible to have multiple skins. It's just that nobody bothered writing another skin. 🐇 R e t e p 9 9 8 🐇🐰 Bunny Overlord 🐰 16:09, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, and @ the IP dude, we will catch up with the other wiki, at least in amount of articles, sooner rather then later ;) -Xbony2 (talk) 11:47, 3 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I have found ftbwiki.org has more of a general covering, meanwhile the articles here tend to be more up to date (thus most new blocks/items are only here), though for a few mods coverage is better on one or the other. I also overall prefer the light theme here, as I have never much liked dark themes for sites. –KnightMiner t/c 22:18, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Adding new mods
What exactly is the rule related to adding new mods here? I recall reading a brief summary of the rule being "as long as you don't make the mod yourself", but I cannot seem to find it anywhere. To be more specific, I want to add coverage for Tinkers' Steelworks, specifically the [//minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/tinkers-steelworks-fork 1.7.10 fork] made by ephys (the fork is allowed under the license of the original Tinkers' Steelworks for those wondering).

(On a slightly related topic, a CurseForge interwiki would be useful, since most mods have a download hosted there). –KnightMiner t/c 22:18, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Add whatever mod you want kiddo :P
 * In the past, it was restricted to mods that are in FTB packs, but that changed a long time ago. Wiki Staff is suppose to focus on FTB-mods, but nobody cares too much. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 00:05, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * to be more specific: normal users can accurately document any mod they wish. Developers can document any mod they make, regardless of if it is in ftb. Staff can document any mod in ftb or listed 3rd party packs, as well as any mod they develop. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 17:15, 26 October 2015 (UTC)


 * What exactly qualifies someone as staff? Is it the user group or is that a separate thing?
 * Also, is there a way I can get the user right for the tilesheets? If not, where is a good place for me to post the textures for someone to add them? –KnightMiner t/c 20:41, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * For tilesheets, follow the procedure described here. Staff is a user group of people that are proficient with mediawiki and our system of templates and the various guidelines and can be trusted with the responsibility of maintaining the wiki. 🐇 R e t e p 9 9 8 🐇🐰 Bunny Overlord 🐰 20:57, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Animating through multiple oreDicts
Is there an easy way to animate through multiple oreDict entries, or will I have to write a new template to do that? The reason I'm wondering is because the High Oven supports five different ore dictionary entries for the oxidizer, and four for the reducer, thus running it as multiple slides (or whatever the arrows on the bottom are called...) would be inaccurate as any from either list can be used, and just using multiple tables would have way to many combinations. –KnightMiner t/c 21:40, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
 * 🐇 R e t e p 9 9 8 🐇🐰 Bunny Overlord 🐰 23:41, 1 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that worked. I hope you don't mind that I modified the template to not require setting "no-anim" each time by passing along a variable. –KnightMiner t/c 00:15, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Mod added recipes for vanilla items
Tinkers' Steelworks adds a High Oven recipe for Nether Quartz and Tinkers' Construct adds recipes for End Stone. I am wondering if adding a section for mod added recipes on vanilla items is fine, or if it is advised to be added to a different article. –KnightMiner t/c 03:01, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * In my opinion mod added recipes for a vanilla item should appear on the article for that vanilla item. 🐇 R e t e p 9 9 8 🐇🐰 Bunny Overlord 🐰 12:05, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Like on Raw Fish? It's been talked about a good bit, and I do agree it would be appropriate. -Xbony2, Master of Feed The Beast Wiki (talk) 12:18, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree. I think it would give a purpose to not just redirect to the mcw on all vanilla pages --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 17:08, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Ore Dictionary backlog
Gamepedia updated to a new but unstable version of the OreDict extension. For the time being, no new entries can be added. Therefor, feel free to add on to this list here; I/other staff will register the entries when the extension is fixed. -Xbony2 (talk) 00:02, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Strawberry (Pam's HarvestCraft) (see infobox)
 * Actually, Santa corrected me; new entries are okay, but modifying current entries is a no-no. I guess you can put anything needing modification here instead. -Xbony2 (talk) 00:13, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * To be more specific: Don't touch OreDictEntryManager. I'm currently looking into the database query issue where it always returns 0 rows, as that's higher priority. These 2 bugs are my top priorities in regards to coding and wiki work right now. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 00:16, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Toolbar customization
Recently, I've been working on an extension (JS, not PHP) to the WikiEditor interface (see User:Xbony2/common/toolbar.js). Hopefully, when complete, it can be part of the wiki for all users to have if desired.

This idea is something that I quite honestly one hundred and ten percent stole from the unofficial wiki (just the idea, not the code). It makes it easy for new users to use templates without needing to research through other pages and incomplete wiki guides. Anyway, this is what it currently looks like; obviously, it's missing icons. I am slightly lazy when it comes to finding icons, so I'd like to avoid finding icons before having consensus on what buttons should even be on the toolbar; that way I don't need to throw any icons out of the window. The current button list is (in order): These are templates that should be generally useful for new users and beginning editors; this really isn't aimed at experienced editors like me and other staff, who know the names and usage of these templates by heart. Anyway, what templates should be included, and what templates should be excluded? -Xbony2 (talk) 15:58, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Infobox
 * Infobox mod
 * Cg/Crafting Table
 * Cg/Furnace
 * Gc
 * O
 * T
 * S
 * Pn
 * P
 * L
 * Disambiguation
 * Stub
 * Cleanup
 * I quite like that. Can you show some examples of what appears when you actually press those buttons? I'm mainly interested in Gc, and the Infoboxes, though. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 22:33, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Why did you put everything in pre? Putting the ending in post would make some of them so much easier to use. Like having  in pre and   in post for example makes them so much better so that you can start typing straight from the middle where the template name is going to go anyway.  Chocohead  Nag • Edits • Staff 23:05, 21 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Gc: (referred to as "Item" in the "Grids" group)


 * Infobox: (referred to as "Block/Item" in the "Infoboxes" group)


 * "PAGE_NAME" is the actual name of the page being edited, in this case "Feed_The_Beast_Wiki:Centralized_discussion" was inserted in its place.
 * Listing all of them would be tedious, so for more you'll want to refer to the code or maybe enable it yourself. -Xbony2 (talk) 23:07, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Chocohead: I don't know that was an option actually, but I'll look at it. -Xbony2 (talk) 23:09, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Modified. -Xbony2 (talk) 23:16, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Update: I've added images for everything. I'm too lazy to list all of it, so look at User:Xbony2/common/toolbar.js or just add it to your common.js.

A few images are in the Curse cache of hell- Block/Item should be an Electric Furnace, Mod should be a Wrench, Item should be an Electronic Circuit. These are all images from Vanilla or IC2, because I wanted to maintain consistency. Thoughts? Ideas? -Xbony2 (talk) 00:30, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I think we should stick purely to Vanilla. --  Satanic Santa F T B Wiki Admin 00:33, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Vanilla doesn't really have enough items to well represent the used concepts. I chose IC2 because it's pretty well known in the modded community, and this is a modded wiki. -Xbony2 (talk) 00:40, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I changed Cleanup to a Painter. -Xbony2 (talk) 01:07, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Sidebar covering content
"When I snap my firefox window to half the screen, text from different parts of the wiki overlaps the actual content." -guy from the survey. See. This is particularly bothersome if on mobile in desktop view (used since we all know the mobile view sucks). -Xbony2 (talk) 14:40, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

you'll probably want to reposition the sidebar for narrower frames. i've experienced ads overlapping content but I can't seem to reproduce it. --  Jin bo  bo  04:04, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * That didn't fix it. --  Satanic Santa 🎅F T B Wiki Admin 07:12, 12 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Bleh. CSS Specificity. Fixed it. Keep the divs. I've noticed that the navigation bar and the logo are disappearing now. While digging around I did actually find a rule that is identical to my old one except it met the same fate and got overridden by some rule with higher specificity. This is dumb. --  Jin bo  bo  22:31, 12 July 2016 (UTC)


 * btw accidentally hovered over the share link. it's ugly as hell.
 * Indeed it is. --  Satanic Santa 🎅F T B Wiki Admin 00:39, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I took a look at some other popular wikis (habbo, mc, wow, etc), and it seems like they either remove it, or leave it looking this terrible. I guess we should decide on one of these options, or investigate whether it's actually possible to make it not look like crap --  Satanic Santa 🎅F T B Wiki Admin 03:11, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Is there a way to disable the share popup too for anon. because I'm pretty dang sure that anon won't ever want to share their edits. --  Jin bo  bo  04:14, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Fixed this in the global stylesheet. --  Satanic Santa 🎅F T B Wiki Admin 00:39, 13 July 2016 (UTC)